Why are there so many wrapped M6s?
Discussion
As subject really. Starting the shop for an M6 and of 28 in the classifieds, there's at least 3 wrapped. 2 white, one matt black.
Was white not a factory option? I do think they look great in white, but the instant assumption is wrap = chav, so might not have been properly looked after (apologies if I've offended anyone with that massive sweeping generalisation!!)
Was white not a factory option? I do think they look great in white, but the instant assumption is wrap = chav, so might not have been properly looked after (apologies if I've offended anyone with that massive sweeping generalisation!!)
E30M3SE said:
Hughesie said:
Not sure, but ANY wrapped car and i immediately think "whats the condition like underneath?"
This 100%.I guess it will have to be something I address on a car by car basis. I do like them in white, but it seems the only white ones for sale are wrapped.
I used to have an e46 M3 in Silver. Got bored of it so had it wrapped white as they are as rare as hens teeth. Nothing at all wrong with the paint. Would i do it again - No. The wrap was on nearly 2 years and was starting to look tatty. When i came to trade it for my M5 it affected its price as many of the underwriting dealers simply didnt want to know.
My advice is yeah get a wrap by all means but get it done yourself and dont buy a one which has already been done
cheers
marc
My advice is yeah get a wrap by all means but get it done yourself and dont buy a one which has already been done
cheers
marc
Did you not consider taking the wrap off before trading it in?
I've considered wrapping my car to a different colour, for my own enjoyment and taste, however I have concerns over what the car will look like when the wrap comes off when I eventually decide to move it on ... My fear is that chips and blemishes in the paint could lead to the paint being pulled off come removal time.
I've considered wrapping my car to a different colour, for my own enjoyment and taste, however I have concerns over what the car will look like when the wrap comes off when I eventually decide to move it on ... My fear is that chips and blemishes in the paint could lead to the paint being pulled off come removal time.
Hi,
As usual, there is some evidence in the above that as things aren't known about, there's a quick 'rush' to assume things are horrible or wrong etc. Whilst to an extent the potential for all those is high, some simple reading up and research and speaking to higher end wrap specialists would put all your concerns to rest.
The higher end and reputable wrap specialists will sit down and talk to you about what they can do and how to ensure there's no damage to the paintwork. When the 'correct' grades of vinyl are used, guarantee's are now up from the initial 5 years and now are 10 in some cases. As to be expected, it's the lower end of the market and specialists who cut too many corners and use the wrong grades of vinyl which then end up looking wrong or tatty after a short period, and thus causing incorrect concern.
I had my roof done in a carbon fibre printed vinyl in early 2008, and today, it still looks exactly the same as it did nearly 4 years ago. I used one of the longest established names in the industry and at the time, they were the only ones in the UK who could do the carbon fibre style print into the correct exterior grade vehicle wrap from 3M. The company has wrapped much more expensive cars than BMW's including Mclaren SLR's, myriads of Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and things like Konigseggs etc. The owners of such cars are probably much more worried about damage to their paintwork, but such is the knowledge and guarantee from the company, the cars were done. You've got to think, if those owners place trust, and the risk if anything goes wrong would be catastrophic for the company and would leave an extremely angry client, that wrapping such a car must be done extremely well.
I was told during consulting that a wrap is only as good as solid and excellent condition paintwork underneath. If you turn up with rust spots here and there, most likely they'll refuse to carry out the work until it's sorted. When applied correctly, using the correct preparatory products etc, when the wrap is removed there's no damage to the paintwork underneath.
All the benefits of a vehicle wrap are well known, there's no real downsides if higher end specialists are used.
Cheers, Dennis!
As usual, there is some evidence in the above that as things aren't known about, there's a quick 'rush' to assume things are horrible or wrong etc. Whilst to an extent the potential for all those is high, some simple reading up and research and speaking to higher end wrap specialists would put all your concerns to rest.
The higher end and reputable wrap specialists will sit down and talk to you about what they can do and how to ensure there's no damage to the paintwork. When the 'correct' grades of vinyl are used, guarantee's are now up from the initial 5 years and now are 10 in some cases. As to be expected, it's the lower end of the market and specialists who cut too many corners and use the wrong grades of vinyl which then end up looking wrong or tatty after a short period, and thus causing incorrect concern.
I had my roof done in a carbon fibre printed vinyl in early 2008, and today, it still looks exactly the same as it did nearly 4 years ago. I used one of the longest established names in the industry and at the time, they were the only ones in the UK who could do the carbon fibre style print into the correct exterior grade vehicle wrap from 3M. The company has wrapped much more expensive cars than BMW's including Mclaren SLR's, myriads of Ferrari's and Lamborghini's and things like Konigseggs etc. The owners of such cars are probably much more worried about damage to their paintwork, but such is the knowledge and guarantee from the company, the cars were done. You've got to think, if those owners place trust, and the risk if anything goes wrong would be catastrophic for the company and would leave an extremely angry client, that wrapping such a car must be done extremely well.
I was told during consulting that a wrap is only as good as solid and excellent condition paintwork underneath. If you turn up with rust spots here and there, most likely they'll refuse to carry out the work until it's sorted. When applied correctly, using the correct preparatory products etc, when the wrap is removed there's no damage to the paintwork underneath.
All the benefits of a vehicle wrap are well known, there's no real downsides if higher end specialists are used.
Cheers, Dennis!
Dennis, I would not and am not concerned about the wrap causing paint damage, more what is the condition of the paint underneath and not just a rust issue which would obviously show through any wrap as an imperfection, but colour match, previous repair to panels etc, which you would never know unles the wrap was removed, as case in point.....
after.....
before.......
............ now I don't know about you but if I'm buying a car I like to see what I'm buying in the flesh, a wrapped car doesn't allow that, but whatever floats your boat.
after.....
before.......
............ now I don't know about you but if I'm buying a car I like to see what I'm buying in the flesh, a wrapped car doesn't allow that, but whatever floats your boat.
Hi,
Yes, of course I agree about what could be lurking underneath - in reality, this of course means any potential buyer with their head screwed on will of course ask the seller what's underneath, who did the work and can check up that way. I understand that isn't always possible or feasible, at which point a suitable lower offer would probably be done if the rest of the car's inspection is up to par. In the vast majority of cases I think most buyers will walk away upon hearing a car is wrapped though. Sellers would then have to realise to remove the wrap in order to increase chances of selling the car. Some 'enthusiast' of course will have a build thread etc and may well perhaps have pictures of their car beforehand to back up their statements of good paintwork underneath.
There are some wraps which are so well executed that it is indeed hard to tell. One such BMW I saw at SEMA 2010 had this in it's window;
the quality was indeed flawless!
I'd love Sepang Bronze from the BMW palette or perhaps a Lamborghini colour from their range on my E39 !
Cheers, Dennis!
Yes, of course I agree about what could be lurking underneath - in reality, this of course means any potential buyer with their head screwed on will of course ask the seller what's underneath, who did the work and can check up that way. I understand that isn't always possible or feasible, at which point a suitable lower offer would probably be done if the rest of the car's inspection is up to par. In the vast majority of cases I think most buyers will walk away upon hearing a car is wrapped though. Sellers would then have to realise to remove the wrap in order to increase chances of selling the car. Some 'enthusiast' of course will have a build thread etc and may well perhaps have pictures of their car beforehand to back up their statements of good paintwork underneath.
There are some wraps which are so well executed that it is indeed hard to tell. One such BMW I saw at SEMA 2010 had this in it's window;
the quality was indeed flawless!
I'd love Sepang Bronze from the BMW palette or perhaps a Lamborghini colour from their range on my E39 !
Cheers, Dennis!
Hi
That's unfortunate - you obviously went for some proper cowboys there ! also, the legal side of me says you should have taken the car right back to them and claimed from their insurance to have you car completely resprayed at a garage of your choosing. I'm also thinking with such shoddy work, you should name them so that other's don't get hit with a similar ultra low level quality of work.
You did claim and get your car fixed.. right?
Cheers, Dennis!
That's unfortunate - you obviously went for some proper cowboys there ! also, the legal side of me says you should have taken the car right back to them and claimed from their insurance to have you car completely resprayed at a garage of your choosing. I'm also thinking with such shoddy work, you should name them so that other's don't get hit with a similar ultra low level quality of work.
You did claim and get your car fixed.. right?
Cheers, Dennis!
DennisCooper said:
Hi
That's unfortunate - you obviously went for some proper cowboys there ! also, the legal side of me says you should have taken the car right back to them and claimed from their insurance to have you car completely resprayed at a garage of your choosing. I'm also thinking with such shoddy work, you should name them so that other's don't get hit with a similar ultra low level quality of work.
You did claim and get your car fixed.. right?
Cheers, Dennis!
Here we go. There was a big enough saga ref this topic in the South Coast forum. Pete, have you got it in you to venture there again? Beware the mods, lol.That's unfortunate - you obviously went for some proper cowboys there ! also, the legal side of me says you should have taken the car right back to them and claimed from their insurance to have you car completely resprayed at a garage of your choosing. I'm also thinking with such shoddy work, you should name them so that other's don't get hit with a similar ultra low level quality of work.
You did claim and get your car fixed.. right?
Cheers, Dennis!
ecain63 said:
Here we go. There was a big enough saga ref this topic in the South Coast forum. Pete, have you got it in you to venture there again? Beware the mods, lol.
I'm gonna let it rest now. But will still warn others who want to get there car wrapped in the south coast area.I started legal proceedings with the company, I eventually settled out of court. The damage caused totalled approx £5 - £6 k, I got a fraction of that. I was so pissed off I sold the car.
DennisCooper said:
Ecain - err...
I'm not a 'pete' .. ! no idea where you got that from ! plenty of BMW enthusiasts who know and have met me at various shows can confirm - no conspiracy theory required!
Cheers, Dennis!
I know you are not Pete. Pete, is P101. Im familiar with his story so thats where the comment stemmed from. I'm not a 'pete' .. ! no idea where you got that from ! plenty of BMW enthusiasts who know and have met me at various shows can confirm - no conspiracy theory required!
Cheers, Dennis!
Eddie
P101 said:
ecain63 said:
Here we go. There was a big enough saga ref this topic in the South Coast forum. Pete, have you got it in you to venture there again? Beware the mods, lol.
I'm gonna let it rest now. But will still warn others who want to get there car wrapped in the south coast area.I started legal proceedings with the company, I eventually settled out of court. The damage caused totalled approx £5 - £6 k, I got a fraction of that. I was so pissed off I sold the car.
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