E28 m5 with Hartge modification
Discussion
Hello M Power forum,
I'm pretty sure I'm about to jump into e28 m5 ownership....
I would very much value your opinion regarding this car
http://www.avantgardecars.co.uk/viewcar/BMW%20M5%2...
It is beautifully finished, but I wonder whether a modified car such as this ( although expertly done) may be regarded as too far away from standard ( of which there are some very pleasant vehicles on the market) to retain value / be attractive should I wish to move on in the future....
Your views and advice very welcome!
All the best
Chris
I'm pretty sure I'm about to jump into e28 m5 ownership....
I would very much value your opinion regarding this car
http://www.avantgardecars.co.uk/viewcar/BMW%20M5%2...
It is beautifully finished, but I wonder whether a modified car such as this ( although expertly done) may be regarded as too far away from standard ( of which there are some very pleasant vehicles on the market) to retain value / be attractive should I wish to move on in the future....
Your views and advice very welcome!
All the best
Chris
Thats really nice. I have seen it advertised while trawling through the classifieds. I think if you have a really nice standard M car then obviously you want to try and keep it standard and original, however if its going to be modified then the best way of doing this is with Genuine BMW recognised extras, such as Hartge, Alpina etc and then the value is still there. Its also quite rare too and sets it apart from the standard cars.
ady702 said:
The car looks brilliant, ONE thing I would change though is the wheels, I would buy a set of proper Hartge alloys to match the rest of the Hartge items. Apart from that I want it aswell LOL
I agree with that. I think the wheels have market value as they are in a1 refurbed condition so could help fund a hartge set. M3 Charlie, thx for your views. Yep the alpina is very goodcris9964 said:
It is beautifully finished, but I wonder whether a modified car such as this ( although expertly done) may be regarded as too far away from standard ( of which there are some very pleasant vehicles on the market) to retain value / be attractive should I wish to move on in the future....
This would absolutely be my concern.Looks very nice, but ultimately it seems to be the low mileage "stock" cars that command the higher prices. £20k for a (significantly) non-standard car looks a bit toppy to me.
Hi,
For those who haven't bought a car and are worried about values for when they'd wish to sell on if they were to buy it, then a modified car, not matter how pristine and fantastically done from one of the very best tuner's out there isn't a car for them.
The 'vast' majority of BMW enthusiasts are indeed 'oem only' types so the likes of an extremely rare Hartge modified E28 M5 isn't really going to be their choice. Modified cars like these cater to a different level of enthusiast, those who prefer even more exclusivity and reliable well proven performance.
Standard cars will indeed have the widest market reach for re-sale time, but there's also plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there. A rare and extremely exclusive modified version like this, will have far greater chances of being looked after and maintained fanatically than perhaps 95% of all the standard variants that are out there.
It all comes down basically to what as an enthusiast you'd like to go for.
Cheers, Dennis!
For those who haven't bought a car and are worried about values for when they'd wish to sell on if they were to buy it, then a modified car, not matter how pristine and fantastically done from one of the very best tuner's out there isn't a car for them.
The 'vast' majority of BMW enthusiasts are indeed 'oem only' types so the likes of an extremely rare Hartge modified E28 M5 isn't really going to be their choice. Modified cars like these cater to a different level of enthusiast, those who prefer even more exclusivity and reliable well proven performance.
Standard cars will indeed have the widest market reach for re-sale time, but there's also plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there. A rare and extremely exclusive modified version like this, will have far greater chances of being looked after and maintained fanatically than perhaps 95% of all the standard variants that are out there.
It all comes down basically to what as an enthusiast you'd like to go for.
Cheers, Dennis!
DennisCooper said:
Hi,
For those who haven't bought a car and are worried about values for when they'd wish to sell on if they were to buy it, then a modified car, not matter how pristine and fantastically done from one of the very best tuner's out there isn't a car for them.
The 'vast' majority of BMW enthusiasts are indeed 'oem only' types so the likes of an extremely rare Hartge modified E28 M5 isn't really going to be their choice. Modified cars like these cater to a different level of enthusiast, those who prefer even more exclusivity and reliable well proven performance.
Standard cars will indeed have the widest market reach for re-sale time, but there's also plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there. A rare and extremely exclusive modified version like this, will have far greater chances of being looked after and maintained fanatically than perhaps 95% of all the standard variants that are out there.
It all comes down basically to what as an enthusiast you'd like to go for.
Cheers, Dennis!
I agree with almost all of this except for the suggestion that there are "plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there". This simply isn't the case with the e28 M5. There were fewer than 190 rhds sold in the UK and a number of those will have rotted, crashed , been exported etc. Hence they so rarely come up for sale.For those who haven't bought a car and are worried about values for when they'd wish to sell on if they were to buy it, then a modified car, not matter how pristine and fantastically done from one of the very best tuner's out there isn't a car for them.
The 'vast' majority of BMW enthusiasts are indeed 'oem only' types so the likes of an extremely rare Hartge modified E28 M5 isn't really going to be their choice. Modified cars like these cater to a different level of enthusiast, those who prefer even more exclusivity and reliable well proven performance.
Standard cars will indeed have the widest market reach for re-sale time, but there's also plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there. A rare and extremely exclusive modified version like this, will have far greater chances of being looked after and maintained fanatically than perhaps 95% of all the standard variants that are out there.
It all comes down basically to what as an enthusiast you'd like to go for.
Cheers, Dennis!
But all the same, I agree that the standard car will command the higher price and the wider audience come resale time.
sorry to but in but i do have probably the best e28 m5 for sale ( well 4star classics are selling it for me ) 86 motorshow car therefore special full red leather , v rare navy blue paint. truely mint condition. everything done, contact james at 4star as they have it, not cheap but perfect.
DennisCooper said:
Hi,
For those who haven't bought a car and are worried about values for when they'd wish to sell on if they were to buy it, then a modified car, not matter how pristine and fantastically done from one of the very best tuner's out there isn't a car for them.
The 'vast' majority of BMW enthusiasts are indeed 'oem only' types so the likes of an extremely rare Hartge modified E28 M5 isn't really going to be their choice. Modified cars like these cater to a different level of enthusiast, those who prefer even more exclusivity and reliable well proven performance.
Standard cars will indeed have the widest market reach for re-sale time, but there's also plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there. A rare and extremely exclusive modified version like this, will have far greater chances of being looked after and maintained fanatically than perhaps 95% of all the standard variants that are out there.
It all comes down basically to what as an enthusiast you'd like to go for.
Cheers, Dennis!
I agree completely!For those who haven't bought a car and are worried about values for when they'd wish to sell on if they were to buy it, then a modified car, not matter how pristine and fantastically done from one of the very best tuner's out there isn't a car for them.
The 'vast' majority of BMW enthusiasts are indeed 'oem only' types so the likes of an extremely rare Hartge modified E28 M5 isn't really going to be their choice. Modified cars like these cater to a different level of enthusiast, those who prefer even more exclusivity and reliable well proven performance.
Standard cars will indeed have the widest market reach for re-sale time, but there's also plenty of pristine examples, good examples and absolute crap examples of them out there. A rare and extremely exclusive modified version like this, will have far greater chances of being looked after and maintained fanatically than perhaps 95% of all the standard variants that are out there.
It all comes down basically to what as an enthusiast you'd like to go for.
Cheers, Dennis!
I am one of those sad individuals who pay a premium for an OEM mint box and get turned off by anything that had been dicked about with; no matter how well done.
Reading the well written sales advert, to me it basically says that it was maintained well to a point until the owner decided to throw a load of money at it and turn it into a bit of a racer. The advert doesn't state the mileage either, only the mileage since the conversion in '90. Thats enough to put me off as although the rebuilt engine has done 62k; what has the rest of the car done?
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