M3 or M5
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dulcinea

Original Poster:

125 posts

254 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I moved from an M3 a year ago into a family wagon but about to move back into a more fun machine. I had fixed on a 911 but seriously reconsidering now because of the size (we have 3 kids). It works but only just. My E92 was such a great car and I miss it everyday so I am thinking about moving back to the fold but seeing how the M5 prices have plummeted already they are moving into range. Has anyone driven one and can compare the two? My drive is down B roads so lots of tight corners and short straights. The M3 loved it, will the M5 seem too big? Hopefully off to drive one in a week or so but always interested in the opinion of others, partciuarly those who have had longer in the car.

Chipper

1,540 posts

243 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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The M5 is another league with regards to performance and I've just been offered a silver fully loaded 61 plate M5 that was £85000 new for £68000.

I think in a couple of months you would be able to get one for £65000 which seems a good time to buy one.

Skrambles

1,357 posts

290 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Chipper said:
The M5 is another league with regards to performance and I've just been offered a silver fully loaded 61 plate M5 that was £85000 new for £68000.

I think in a couple of months you would be able to get one for £65000 which seems a good time to buy one.
A load of nearly new f10 M5s have appeared on the BMW website. I was supposed to go and look at one on Saturday. Are they really shifting for £68k? If so, I may be buying one sooner than planned.

pjv997

668 posts

208 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Yes prices on the M5 demos have moved and there are deals to be done.

I pick mine up later this week.

My view is that the prices will be down to mid £60's by the end of the June quarter, maybe lower, but due to impending ski holiday and opportunity for an epic journey to the Alps in the new car, didn't want to wait.

Interesting view on Top Gear last night. 'Best car in the world' comment may encourage dealers to hold their prices.

DT398

1,944 posts

174 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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pjv997 said:
Interesting view on Top Gear last night. 'Best car in the world' comment may encourage dealers to hold their prices.
Well they could try but TG also said that the "problem" with the M5 was that the standard 5 Series was so good that it's hard to justify an extra £30k over a 530d. In other words it's too expensive. I might agree with that regarding the new price but it would be a lot of car for £65k.

AreOut

3,658 posts

187 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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DT398 said:
Well they could try but TG also said that the "problem" with the M5 was that the standard 5 Series was so good that it's hard to justify an extra £30k over a 530d.
that was very stupid comparison, McLaren SLR is 300K over an M5 and the difference is nowhere near M5>530d.

DT398

1,944 posts

174 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Well, yes can't disagree with that and a lot of thing JC says are designed to get attention but the fact is, lots of people listen. The fact that the BMW AUC site is now flooded with nearly new M5s suggests the price is only going one way, and that's South. Seems like the days of over subscribed new models with a premium price and a waiting list are over (for now). These must all be dealer registered cars to hide the fact nobody was buying new ones. It's going to be a lot of car for the money in 6-9 months.

joscal

2,583 posts

226 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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DT398 said:
Well, yes can't disagree with that and a lot of thing JC says are designed to get attention but the fact is, lots of people listen. The fact that the BMW AUC site is now flooded with nearly new M5s suggests the price is only going one way, and that's South. Seems like the days of over subscribed new models with a premium price and a waiting list are over (for now). These must all be dealer registered cars to hide the fact nobody was buying new ones. It's going to be a lot of car for the money in 6-9 months.
I agree with this, I hope I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be the same 'appetite' for these kind of cars anymore in the UK. I don't think they will sell in anything like the numbers they did during the boom years.

China, Russia etc are where these kind of cars are going to get their sales in the future (in my opinion.)

Slurms

1,254 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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A fair few of the new M5 now down under 70k

NIIKME

562 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Hi, I can offer some opinion on both. Like you I have owned an E92(DCT)M3. Loved the car, didn't love the fuel bills smile
I was lucky enough to take a jaw droppingly stunning silverstone M5 out for an extended test drive over the weekend just gone. I should qualify I am not an interested buyer (and was looking at X5s) but my best mate works at a local dealer and it was quiet. My simple comparison is that the M5 feels significantly heavier pulling away, less nimble(obviously), and noticeably heavier steering. I also didn't rate the sound much. The M3 sounds better. When it gets going its probably faster than the M3 but I didn't "feel" that much and IMHO it needs to be in a straight line to feel/see the comparison. The M3 would be more fun on B roads IMHO.
So having driven the M5, and if I had the money I would take another M3. The M5, for me, was an M3 with less finesse and even more top end speed that you would never ever use on a public road day-to-day - indeed the M3 has more than enough.
Interestingly the local dealer sold the car the day after, marked up at £75k with 2k miles on the clock. They have only sold one other car to date at £84k list.
Hope that may help a little.

Chipper

1,540 posts

243 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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I'm surprised you didn't find much difference in performance. I never found the M3 very fast but the M5 on the other hand was seriously quick, to the point that I felt it might be too much for everyday use.

NIIKME

562 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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It took me 6 months to learn the m3, so maybe I would need more time with the m5. Just feels big to me and the m3 is more eager by initial comparison. Red lining the m5 in the heads up display is pretty cool though wink

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

229 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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The M5 prices will fall very hard and very fast - they always do.

Expensive big saloons always have and always will.

I reckon £30k in 2 years time for an F10 M5.

jaedba2604

3,782 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th March 2012
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I think £30k is a bit harsh smile

Check out...: 'Car Sales... Why is it you Buy high and sell low'..for the assertion that it's not until after the first two years that the 'depreciation curve' really kicks in... wink

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th March 2012
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I'll bookmark this thread and revisit in 2 years - I think 30k will be about right myself

I'm not in agreement with the depreciation curve 'really kicking in' after two years either. I mean as soon as its registered you lose the 20% VAT *










  • Of course this rationale does not apply to specialist LE cars and the like...

Jazzer

1,758 posts

230 months

Friday 16th March 2012
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The F10 M5 is magnificent.

But that V10 is better.

Tiff agrees.

Nuff said.

Jazzer

AreOut

3,658 posts

187 months

Saturday 17th March 2012
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"better" is very relative word, E60 is better for sound and driving pleasure, F10 is better for everyday driving, E39 is good for both + most reliable and cheapest to maintain (OK this is of no big significance for F10 buyers)

Contigo

3,130 posts

235 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Pig Skill said:
The M5 prices will fall very hard and very fast - they always do.

Expensive big saloons always have and always will.

I reckon 30k in 2 years time for an F10 M5.
Hope so, I'm looking at keeping my E61 for three years and then getting into an F10 IF and a big IF the touring version is a similar price.


ecain63

10,647 posts

201 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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Contigo said:
Pig Skill said:
The M5 prices will fall very hard and very fast - they always do.

Expensive big saloons always have and always will.

I reckon 30k in 2 years time for an F10 M5.
Hope so, I'm looking at keeping my E61 for three years and then getting into an F10 IF and a big IF the touring version is a similar price.
You'll be waiting a long time mate, there will be no F11 M5 Tourer. Ours is the last they will build.

Contigo

3,130 posts

235 months

Sunday 18th March 2012
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ecain63 said:
You'll be waiting a long time mate, there will be no F11 M5 Tourer. Ours is the last they will build.
Jeez really? I thought it was coming? Seen spy shots the lot. Oh well it's looking more and more like a keeper then.