E60 M5 - sluggish gear changes?
E60 M5 - sluggish gear changes?
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gazchap

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1,543 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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I've had my M5 for a couple of months now, and I've noticed a little annoyance with the SMG 'box that I'm not sure about, don't know if they're supposed to do this or not.

There's a particular roundabout that I have to cross on my commute into work in the morning. I always have to stop at the line due to the traffic, and when I do the SMG box switches into 1 or 2 which is fine.

When I pull away from the roundabout, regardless of whether I'm in 400 or 500bhp mode, I'll pull on to the roundabout and the car will then decide to change up a gear, but it's so sluggish at doing it that I'll essentially be left coasting on to the roundabout while it changes up, and a few times it's caused a couple of close calls where the engine's slowed me down while it works out what to do!

Is that normal?

The throttle response can also be incredibly slow sometimes. In M-mode, it's perfect, but I don't particularly want to drive around in M-mode all the time wink

andygtt

8,345 posts

290 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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try playing with the gearchange settings... I run mine in gearchange setting 5 all the time as its only supper aggressive at high revs anyhow.

also remember that the car remembers how you drive, if you never put the car in first and pull away it can be sluggish... i make a point of holding gears when changing up and changing down early so the car doesnt do anything strange or unexpected on me and touch wood its always well behaved smile

Cheburator mk2

3,197 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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andygtt said:
try playing with the gearchange settings... I run mine in gearchange setting 5 all the time as its only supper aggressive at high revs anyhow.

also remember that the car remembers how you drive, if you never put the car in first and pull away it can be sluggish... i make a point of holding gears when changing up and changing down early so the car doesnt do anything strange or unexpected on me and touch wood its always well behaved smile
what he said...

jm doc

2,934 posts

258 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Similar to the above advice, always run it in setting 5 it's only really quick when you floor it throught the gears at any other times it's very smooth and quick enough. And never ever use auto mode...

ecain63

10,646 posts

201 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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The gear changes get quicker the further up the rev range you go. If you're changing up or down at 1500 revs then it'll seem pretty sluggish, especially if you're off throttle. But if you change gear higher up, say around 3krpm it'll be much quicker. Always drive in S5. Failing that check your battery as it powers the SMG pump.

Eddie

gazchap

Original Poster:

1,543 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Cheers for the advice guys, started using the paddle shifter as a matter of course now and it does seem better, although it's probably not going to do the (already ridiculous) fuel consumption any favours wink

wax lyrical

1,029 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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May I ask what sort of fuel consumption you are getting?

I was seriously thinking about an E60 M5 before buying my E93 335i, so would like the opportunity to feel smug. smile


gazchap said:
Cheers for the advice guys, started using the paddle shifter as a matter of course now and it does seem better, although it's probably not going to do the (already ridiculous) fuel consumption any favours wink

gazchap

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1,543 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Generally I'm only doing short journeys, which isn't helping - average is around 12-13mpg. The stupidly small fuel tank doesn't help matters.

wax lyrical

1,029 posts

267 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Think I'm more shocked than smug now!! You'd better start digging for oil. smile

gazchap said:
Generally I'm only doing short journeys, which isn't helping - average is around 12-13mpg. The stupidly small fuel tank doesn't help matters.

outnumbered

4,830 posts

260 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Auto mode on SMG is hopeless, outside of solid traffic jams or unless you are prepared to drive like a granny everywhere. Using manual mode is really the only way to avoid the situation you mention.

andygtt

8,345 posts

290 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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gazchap said:
Generally I'm only doing short journeys, which isn't helping - average is around 12-13mpg. The stupidly small fuel tank doesn't help matters.
worth mentioning that letting the engine rev will give you better mpg hence the auto mode wont give you as good as you will acheive in flappy mode... i rev the engine to 3.5-4k before changing in normal road use and average 19mpg... in fact last few tanks have seen me do 21+mpg even with some spirited blats to the rev limiter.
and no i dont drive like a gran lol

gazchap

Original Poster:

1,543 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Aah, OK - that's more encouraging then. I'll give it a go.

manand38

2,026 posts

232 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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gazchap said:
Generally I'm only doing short journeys, which isn't helping - average is around 12-13mpg. The stupidly small fuel tank doesn't help matters.
wow. I get ~18mpg around town. What milleage have you done?

CarbonM5

927 posts

217 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Try the smg reset driving at 40 knock into neutral and pull both paddles back for a couple of seconds.



ecain63

10,646 posts

201 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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CarbonM5 said:
Try the smg reset driving at 40 knock into neutral and pull both paddles back for a couple of seconds.
6 seconds, car must stay above 40mph for duration and it needs to be a straight road. I do mine on the motorway.

This doesn't calibrate the gearbox though, only resets the diff to recognise tyre radius.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

245 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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wish this was a manual option