M6 Competition Pack on order!
Discussion
Despite my recent F13 M6 purchase (talked about in my other thread here New F13 M6), as I alluded to in that thread, I've been so impressed with the new M6 since I got it that I've been eyeing up the new Competition Pack already!
The problem is, even the BMW offers of £10k discount plus up-to 4-years interest free (worth about £10-12k in saved interest against a typical PCP on a used/ex-demo example) just aren't strong enough to counter the crucifying depreciation.
By my reckoning, I needed at least 18% off the car (so double what BMW's contribution is) to make it a better overall 'financial' proposition than my current ex-demo example (if ever the purchase of an M6 could even be mentioned in the same sentence as a 'better' financial anything!). This was especially important given the costly options that I'd want to add because these options have absolutely no value come trade-in time
I didn't hold out much hope of doing a deal after speaking to BMW North Oxford - they sold me my current car and I was keen to deal with them again given how nice it was to do business with an 'independent' dealer). They basically point blank refused to go anywhere near the £20k+ discount that I was after....fair enough, thats their right to do so.
Then, earlier this week I get a call from one of my local dealers, Sytner Nottingham, who said they were holding a special discount event this weekend to help them achieve their quarterly targets. Again, I didn't hold out much hope given Sytner have failed to sell me an M6 twice in the last year due to their unwillingness to do a deal (once when I looked at M6's back in December, and again when I actually bought one last month). Also, I doubted that a new factory order wouldn't help them hit their quarterly target and I've also had previous experience of these 'special discount' weekends, where the extra value is often hardly worth the cost of fuel to visit the dealer!
Anyway, once they'd got over being baffled at my willingness to consider buying another M6 so soon after buying my current car, all I can say is that they must have been very eager to hit whatever target they're aiming for. And a new factory order was indeed good enough business for them as, in the end, I got all the discount I needed to justify the change and I now have a Competition Pack M6 on order!
It's a pretty outrageous spec because, with such a high percentage of discount on offer across the total cost of the car, I couldn't resist some of the more desirable extras. My spec includes Carbon Ceramic Brakes (which I know I'll never realise the full benefit of, but my experience of such brakes in other cars indicates that I'll enjoy them every day nonetheless!), Bang & Olufsen audio and Full Leather in addition to the Competition Pack and a host of other less interesting goodies. I've gone for San Marino Blue again but have opted for Individual Opal White for the interior - probably a very brave choice which will probably get plenty of shaking heads come trade-in time!
In the end, once I add the discount to the 'value' of the interest free PCP, this new car is only costing a little more than my current ex-demo, despite having an extra £20k's worth of options. I've taken a bit of a bath on trading my car but nothing that I didn't expect or that the new deal doesn't ease the pain of! I'm under no illusion though, the hefty discount won't stop this new car being worth all of 2 pence in a very short space of time, although I'm hopeful that my Carbon Ceramics will make it genuinely different and therefore desirable (although in reality, they'll probably frighten off more people than they attract).
I'm also hoping to get the other benefits of the 2014 updates, which should include the improved HUD and new iDrive functionality which has some kind of touch control on top of the iDrive controller (I know this is going into the 5 but I'm not sure if the 6 gets the same improvements?). The Competition Pack includes all sorts of new suspension / steering upgrades as well as a huuuuge power increase (of 15bhp
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Wheels - HELP!
What I'm struggling with is the wheel choice and I only have this week to decide, otherwise I lose my July build slot. I'm very fond of my current 343M wheels and, whilst these are a no cost option on the Competition Pack, I do feel they're too similar to the wheels on my previous E63 M6 and in any case, I should really get the right wheels for the Competition Pack option. However, the new wheels really don't look great in pictures but I can't imagine that in real life they'll be anything but well-suited to the car - certainly, they seem to have a more progressive concave to them than the existing 343M's.
Also, my current car does generate a very slight steering wheel vibration at 90mph+, despite me having had the wheels Hunter Roadforce balanced twice (with only a little success)
. From what I read on here and other forums, I'm not the only F-series M5/M6 owner to report this 'charcateristic' and I'd guess it's has more to do with the car than just the wheel balancing. The Competition Pack has new suspension, bushes and steering rack so I'm hoping they've 'engineered-out' any imperfections compared to my early build car. I'm inclined to go all-out and spec the new wheels too, in the hope that they look good in real life!
I think I know the answer (as these pics do the new wheels no favours), but what do you guys think....
The Competition Pack wheels look fairly average on these two side-on / close-up shots
But they look to have a nice deep dish from these angles and, whilst the car going round the track has unfinished wheels, the suitability of the design again seems to look fairly right for the car
Or go safe and choose the 343M's, mimicking the same design that's existed largely unchanged since 2005 (but which I can't deny suit the car well and create a great stance)? These wheels do give the illusion of being bigger because the spokes go right into the centre of the wheel, whereas the spokes on the Competition Pack wheel stop where they reach the nuts.
The problem is, even the BMW offers of £10k discount plus up-to 4-years interest free (worth about £10-12k in saved interest against a typical PCP on a used/ex-demo example) just aren't strong enough to counter the crucifying depreciation.
By my reckoning, I needed at least 18% off the car (so double what BMW's contribution is) to make it a better overall 'financial' proposition than my current ex-demo example (if ever the purchase of an M6 could even be mentioned in the same sentence as a 'better' financial anything!). This was especially important given the costly options that I'd want to add because these options have absolutely no value come trade-in time
I didn't hold out much hope of doing a deal after speaking to BMW North Oxford - they sold me my current car and I was keen to deal with them again given how nice it was to do business with an 'independent' dealer). They basically point blank refused to go anywhere near the £20k+ discount that I was after....fair enough, thats their right to do so.
Then, earlier this week I get a call from one of my local dealers, Sytner Nottingham, who said they were holding a special discount event this weekend to help them achieve their quarterly targets. Again, I didn't hold out much hope given Sytner have failed to sell me an M6 twice in the last year due to their unwillingness to do a deal (once when I looked at M6's back in December, and again when I actually bought one last month). Also, I doubted that a new factory order wouldn't help them hit their quarterly target and I've also had previous experience of these 'special discount' weekends, where the extra value is often hardly worth the cost of fuel to visit the dealer!
Anyway, once they'd got over being baffled at my willingness to consider buying another M6 so soon after buying my current car, all I can say is that they must have been very eager to hit whatever target they're aiming for. And a new factory order was indeed good enough business for them as, in the end, I got all the discount I needed to justify the change and I now have a Competition Pack M6 on order!
It's a pretty outrageous spec because, with such a high percentage of discount on offer across the total cost of the car, I couldn't resist some of the more desirable extras. My spec includes Carbon Ceramic Brakes (which I know I'll never realise the full benefit of, but my experience of such brakes in other cars indicates that I'll enjoy them every day nonetheless!), Bang & Olufsen audio and Full Leather in addition to the Competition Pack and a host of other less interesting goodies. I've gone for San Marino Blue again but have opted for Individual Opal White for the interior - probably a very brave choice which will probably get plenty of shaking heads come trade-in time!
In the end, once I add the discount to the 'value' of the interest free PCP, this new car is only costing a little more than my current ex-demo, despite having an extra £20k's worth of options. I've taken a bit of a bath on trading my car but nothing that I didn't expect or that the new deal doesn't ease the pain of! I'm under no illusion though, the hefty discount won't stop this new car being worth all of 2 pence in a very short space of time, although I'm hopeful that my Carbon Ceramics will make it genuinely different and therefore desirable (although in reality, they'll probably frighten off more people than they attract).
I'm also hoping to get the other benefits of the 2014 updates, which should include the improved HUD and new iDrive functionality which has some kind of touch control on top of the iDrive controller (I know this is going into the 5 but I'm not sure if the 6 gets the same improvements?). The Competition Pack includes all sorts of new suspension / steering upgrades as well as a huuuuge power increase (of 15bhp
)Wheels - HELP!
What I'm struggling with is the wheel choice and I only have this week to decide, otherwise I lose my July build slot. I'm very fond of my current 343M wheels and, whilst these are a no cost option on the Competition Pack, I do feel they're too similar to the wheels on my previous E63 M6 and in any case, I should really get the right wheels for the Competition Pack option. However, the new wheels really don't look great in pictures but I can't imagine that in real life they'll be anything but well-suited to the car - certainly, they seem to have a more progressive concave to them than the existing 343M's.
Also, my current car does generate a very slight steering wheel vibration at 90mph+, despite me having had the wheels Hunter Roadforce balanced twice (with only a little success)
. From what I read on here and other forums, I'm not the only F-series M5/M6 owner to report this 'charcateristic' and I'd guess it's has more to do with the car than just the wheel balancing. The Competition Pack has new suspension, bushes and steering rack so I'm hoping they've 'engineered-out' any imperfections compared to my early build car. I'm inclined to go all-out and spec the new wheels too, in the hope that they look good in real life!I think I know the answer (as these pics do the new wheels no favours), but what do you guys think....
The Competition Pack wheels look fairly average on these two side-on / close-up shots
But they look to have a nice deep dish from these angles and, whilst the car going round the track has unfinished wheels, the suitability of the design again seems to look fairly right for the car
Or go safe and choose the 343M's, mimicking the same design that's existed largely unchanged since 2005 (but which I can't deny suit the car well and create a great stance)? These wheels do give the illusion of being bigger because the spokes go right into the centre of the wheel, whereas the spokes on the Competition Pack wheel stop where they reach the nuts.
Edited by Palmball on Sunday 23 June 23:43
Stunning choice of car in a cracking colour 
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For me it would be the Competition Pack Wheels, the more slender spokes combined with the dished profile looks great plus it'll give a better view of those fancy new Carbon Brakes. However I'm sure it will look amazing whichever option you go for.
. For me it would be the Competition Pack Wheels, the more slender spokes combined with the dished profile looks great plus it'll give a better view of those fancy new Carbon Brakes. However I'm sure it will look amazing whichever option you go for.
I actually prefer the standard wheels (just!) but if I was you I'd go for the comp pack as I wouldn't want to have the same wheels again! Makes no sense I know but when I change cars I want them to look different, so if you've gone for the same colour body you should chose the different wheels.
Great choice OP, us petrol heads can financially justify anything in our own minds once we've decided we want a change!!
Enjoy
Great choice OP, us petrol heads can financially justify anything in our own minds once we've decided we want a change!!
Enjoy
Mmm, very nice. Comp wheels, has to be, classically attractive though the others are, I think it's wilful not to go with the new offerings. I've been watching this market with interest, I miss my old M6 - how much were you offered px on the blue F13? Even now these are in the mid 60's I'm concerned at how difficult they appear to sell, although I'd love one now..
Mermaid said:
Wills2 said:
I prefer the standard M6 wheels, I'd go for them if it was me.
Should get Porsche to design their wheels for them (CSL wheels are awesome, and a few others over the years - Mahle, Alpina. M1 Comodoro? - but not that many)
What's the price difference if you were to order a set of each from BMW? I think I would go for the competition rims and if it bothered me that much later I'd pick up a newish second hand set of the standard wheels, which would be close to impossible with the competition wheels I'm guessing.
Thanks for the comments and input chaps - I'm surprised at the number who actually like the Comp Pack wheels! When I saw the first pictures of them I thought they were average at best - small, flat and ordinary looking. It took a few different angles and pictures (such as the more 'real' picture of the car going round the track) to convince me that in real life, they may actually look OK. I still think they're not the best from directly side-on but once you view from an angle and can see the concave, they're look much better.
So, my final decision was to go for......the Competition Pack wheels
Mainly for the following reasons:
- I have a feeling they'll look better in real life
- I am a touch concerned that my current steering wheel wobble (admittedly only at very high speed but also mentioned by other M5/M6 owners) could be a characteristic of the wheel design (but freely admit I have nothing to back this up other than knowing my wheels are definitely balanced!). The new wheels may reduce the risk of the new car doing the same
- As mentioned by others, if I really do hate the wheels they should be quite easy to sell, enabling me to buy a set of standard 343M's (although still at a cost of £4k!!). However, it likely wouldn't be so easy the other way round!
So, my final decision was to go for......the Competition Pack wheels
Mainly for the following reasons:- I have a feeling they'll look better in real life
- I am a touch concerned that my current steering wheel wobble (admittedly only at very high speed but also mentioned by other M5/M6 owners) could be a characteristic of the wheel design (but freely admit I have nothing to back this up other than knowing my wheels are definitely balanced!). The new wheels may reduce the risk of the new car doing the same
- As mentioned by others, if I really do hate the wheels they should be quite easy to sell, enabling me to buy a set of standard 343M's (although still at a cost of £4k!!). However, it likely wouldn't be so easy the other way round!
Palmball said:
Thanks for the comments and input chaps - I'm surprised at the number who actually like the Comp Pack wheels! When I saw the first pictures of them I thought they were average at best - small, flat and ordinary looking. It took a few different angles and pictures (such as the more 'real' picture of the car going round the track) to convince me that in real life, they may actually look OK. I still think they're not the best from directly side-on but once you view from an angle and can see the concave, they're look much better.
So, my final decision was to go for......the Competition Pack wheels Mainly for the following reasons:
- I have a feeling they'll look better in real life
- I am a touch concerned that my current steering wheel wobble (admittedly only at very high speed but also mentioned by other M5/M6 owners) could be a characteristic of the wheel design (but freely admit I have nothing to back this up other than knowing my wheels are definitely balanced!). The new wheels may reduce the risk of the new car doing the same
- As mentioned by others, if I really do hate the wheels they should be quite easy to sell, enabling me to buy a set of standard 343M's (although still at a cost of £4k!!). However, it likely wouldn't be so easy the other way round!
I'm sure the car will look awesome whichever set of wheels it's wearing. Any chance of some photos once you've got it? So, my final decision was to go for......the Competition Pack wheels
Mainly for the following reasons:- I have a feeling they'll look better in real life
- I am a touch concerned that my current steering wheel wobble (admittedly only at very high speed but also mentioned by other M5/M6 owners) could be a characteristic of the wheel design (but freely admit I have nothing to back this up other than knowing my wheels are definitely balanced!). The new wheels may reduce the risk of the new car doing the same
- As mentioned by others, if I really do hate the wheels they should be quite easy to sell, enabling me to buy a set of standard 343M's (although still at a cost of £4k!!). However, it likely wouldn't be so easy the other way round!
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