Discussion
As is apparent from , well, most of my posts, I am rather fond of the old Bavarian mobiles. I had a loose plan to upgrade, and have been considering alternatives (see http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
However, using man maths, I have decided to initiate operation M.
This is a 2-3 stage plan, culminating ultimately in Chariot of choice, a Le mans blue e39 M5. I know that saving for this outright will not work, due to my penchant of buying shiny things, and SWIMBO will not be amused if I spend 8k On a car in one go (no finance Planned in operation M).
So;
Step one- Now.
Current car - e39,528i manual, Many, many miles. Looks good, only the wheels (kerbed, not by me I might add) and a cracked headlight cover let it down.
Sort light, hid upgrade forBMW w
ker lights Halos, refurb wheels (anthracite maybe?)
Run for 2 months to allow a little saving, and sell: Target- £1300
Step two - sep 2013
Buy one like this. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Sort any cosmetics, inline with step one, dependant on actuall car brought.
Run until feb/march 2014, to allow accumulation of funds.
Sell, Target : What I pay for it, minimum.
Step three:Ggreat success. March 2014
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
No finance means more money for bork prevention.
Feel free to ruin my man maths
However, using man maths, I have decided to initiate operation M.
This is a 2-3 stage plan, culminating ultimately in Chariot of choice, a Le mans blue e39 M5. I know that saving for this outright will not work, due to my penchant of buying shiny things, and SWIMBO will not be amused if I spend 8k On a car in one go (no finance Planned in operation M).
So;
Step one- Now.
Current car - e39,528i manual, Many, many miles. Looks good, only the wheels (kerbed, not by me I might add) and a cracked headlight cover let it down.
Sort light, hid upgrade for
ker lightsRun for 2 months to allow a little saving, and sell: Target- £1300
Step two - sep 2013
Buy one like this. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
Sort any cosmetics, inline with step one, dependant on actuall car brought.
Run until feb/march 2014, to allow accumulation of funds.
Sell, Target : What I pay for it, minimum.
Step three:Ggreat success. March 2014
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...
No finance means more money for bork prevention.
Feel free to ruin my man maths

Think about this logically. The jump between the 528i to E36 M3 is going to require a decent amount of saving in itself, and the the jump between an E36 M3 to a good example of an E39 M5 is going to require at least double that amount you saved originally. Long story short, you've going to have to save a considerable amount of money anyway, so you need to stop worrying about spending saved money on shiny things and actually do something about it.
Spending money on doing up the 528i sounds like a mistake. They are rapidly falling into "shed" territory to the point where I think you might be waiting a while to shift a 528i for £1,300.
If a M5 is what you're after, run the 528i like a shed and save. Set up a standing order each money, maybe see if you can sort out a savings account that won't actually let you touch the money until a certain time unless a dire emergency if you've worried about spending it.
If you want to have a M3 in the meantime, again, run the 528i like a shed and save, but bear in mind running such a car is probably going to impede your disposable/savable income significantly more than the 528i would.
As for 'SWMBO', I can only suggest growing a pair of balls and trying to use them
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Spending money on doing up the 528i sounds like a mistake. They are rapidly falling into "shed" territory to the point where I think you might be waiting a while to shift a 528i for £1,300.
If a M5 is what you're after, run the 528i like a shed and save. Set up a standing order each money, maybe see if you can sort out a savings account that won't actually let you touch the money until a certain time unless a dire emergency if you've worried about spending it.
If you want to have a M3 in the meantime, again, run the 528i like a shed and save, but bear in mind running such a car is probably going to impede your disposable/savable income significantly more than the 528i would.
As for 'SWMBO', I can only suggest growing a pair of balls and trying to use them
.I thought logic and man maths were mutually exclusive?
Growing a set has nothing to do with it. It's preemptive hassle reduction, like changing gearbox oil.
Saving over much time is a problem for me. I know that's a stupid thing to admit, but it is. Setting up a saving account it with no card is a requirement I think, so good advice.
Growing a set has nothing to do with it. It's preemptive hassle reduction, like changing gearbox oil.
Saving over much time is a problem for me. I know that's a stupid thing to admit, but it is. Setting up a saving account it with no card is a requirement I think, so good advice.
Right, I'm not a fan of racing on the street..
But ill ignore it in this instance.. How close are these matched!
I kinda of figured the m5 would destroy ther e36.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtXimH1kVG0&no...
But ill ignore it in this instance.. How close are these matched!
I kinda of figured the m5 would destroy ther e36.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtXimH1kVG0&no...
There are too many variables to take into consideration.
No idea how healthy the M5 is, if the maf's are in good working order, vanos etc.
Plus no one said m3s were slow!
Power to weight comes in as well. M3 weighs over 240kgs less than an m5. M5 delivers it's power different as well.
Have you ever been in an M5?
If you want a car that is all things to all men (kinda) then get the m5. If you want a screamer, get the m3.
No idea how healthy the M5 is, if the maf's are in good working order, vanos etc.
Plus no one said m3s were slow!
Power to weight comes in as well. M3 weighs over 240kgs less than an m5. M5 delivers it's power different as well.
Have you ever been in an M5?
If you want a car that is all things to all men (kinda) then get the m5. If you want a screamer, get the m3.
Keep the 528i, run it as a shed until you have saved up enough money, but don't for a second think that the constant leapfrogging from car to car will bring you closer (at least in financial terms) to the M5. It takes one single repair of a new (to you) car, to wipe out a significant chunk of money.
Alternatively, you would be better off selling the 528i then and simply take out a loan and buy the M5 directly.
Alternatively, you would be better off selling the 528i then and simply take out a loan and buy the M5 directly.
MikeHull said:
There are too many variables to take into consideration.
No idea how healthy the M5 is, if the maf's are in good working order, vanos etc.
Plus no one said m3s were slow!
Power to weight comes in as well. M3 weighs over 240kgs less than an m5. M5 delivers it's power different as well.
Have you ever been in an M5?
If you want a car that is all things to all men (kinda) then get the m5. If you want a screamer, get the m3.
I appreciate that it's two old cars, and 2 different examples in the same situation could be very different. Was just surprised how matched they are through, what, second, third and forth to the red line in each?No idea how healthy the M5 is, if the maf's are in good working order, vanos etc.
Plus no one said m3s were slow!
Power to weight comes in as well. M3 weighs over 240kgs less than an m5. M5 delivers it's power different as well.
Have you ever been in an M5?
If you want a car that is all things to all men (kinda) then get the m5. If you want a screamer, get the m3.
MikeHull said:
There are too many variables to take into consideration.
No idea how healthy the M5 is, if the maf's are in good working order, vanos etc.
Plus no one said m3s were slow!
Power to weight comes in as well. M3 weighs over 240kgs less than an m5. M5 delivers it's power different as well.
Have you ever been in an M5?
If you want a car that is all things to all men (kinda) then get the m5. If you want a screamer, get the m3.
I haven't actually been in an M5 thinking about it. Need to sort that, I might hate it!No idea how healthy the M5 is, if the maf's are in good working order, vanos etc.
Plus no one said m3s were slow!
Power to weight comes in as well. M3 weighs over 240kgs less than an m5. M5 delivers it's power different as well.
Have you ever been in an M5?
If you want a car that is all things to all men (kinda) then get the m5. If you want a screamer, get the m3.
MikeHull said:
walsh said:
I haven't actually been in an M5 thinking about it. Need to sort that, I might hate it!
My M5 isn't anything special below 3500rpm. Once on cam it flies.If you where closer to Sheffield I'd of let you have a go in mine.
Would love to take you up on that, but as I have moved to Redhill in surrey recently, Would be a little bit of a trip...
walsh said:
Typical of the Vanos I suppose, Mine is a bit wet even in second below 3500, Then it gets going.
Would love to take you up on that, but as I have moved to Redhill in surrey recently, Would be a little bit of a trip...
Does make it fun above 3500rpm though Would love to take you up on that, but as I have moved to Redhill in surrey recently, Would be a little bit of a trip...

Well If I'm ever down that way I'll let you know. Im in Stoke Mandeville in September, dont know how close that is. May be in London for a weekend in October.
TrickyTrevM5 said:
My view would be that you trade out of the E39 528i and swap into an e39 530i M-sport. Run that for a year and then flip that for an M5. Stay in the model - don't move around. Do more research on the M5 - which can be an absolute money pit if you get it wrong.
See, I assumed that there wouldnt be a world of difference between the 528i and the 530i? Is that not the case? Bit like going from a 1.8 focus to a 2.0, Slightly faster but basically the same car?Or maybe a 540i?
Why do you suggest i stay with the 5ers?
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