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will suffer the worse residual.
Guys, its out of the M3, M5, M6.
For me it has to be the M3. There are a s
te loads of them on the road and every tom dick and harry is driving them, young ones too. The young ones use to have to wait and buy a 3 year old one, now their in them straight away, which I say good luck to them.
Guys, its out of the M3, M5, M6.
For me it has to be the M3. There are a s
te loads of them on the road and every tom dick and harry is driving them, young ones too. The young ones use to have to wait and buy a 3 year old one, now their in them straight away, which I say good luck to them. If you are viewing from purely a monetary stand point then Rassi is correct, this will be the case whether new, intermediate and possibly an older model concept but if viewing from a percentage stand point things do change in my view.
I would say from new they all depreciate about the same percentage wise for at least the first two years but after that I think things change. Certainly by the time the cars get to a more 'mature' stage (6 years plus) I think you will find the M6 will represent best value and the M3 the worst in both monetary and percentage terms.
I base my rational purely on what has already been highlighted, that of availability.
Unfortunately many versions of all three variants on the circuit today are now 3rd generation owned which means more and more will be owned by chavs and those who like the prestige of owning an M sport but cannot really afford to look after one.
Therefore a lot will have dreadful mods that serve only to devalue so it is fair to say a well maintained standard version of all three variants will attract a premium as by definition these standard versions will be harder to find.
Given the M6 is a far more rare bird than the 3&5 I think once you get to a more mature age I think residuals will hold up on this model far better, certainly in percentage terms but monetarily as well. It is worth noting both the M3&5 have been in production continuously for many years now, albeit in revamped versions but none-the-less still continuous where the M6 has not.
Therefore the M3&5 brand in whatever guise is out there in vast numbers whereas the M6 is not, when it did come to market production numbers were small, most of which were built in 2005 & 2006, after this numbers fall away.
These are naturally rare and good ones even more so which is why my offering on this topic based on the OP's question would be a 2005-2007 M6 as I think the others will depreciate a lot further but these at some point will hold.
I should say I am an E63 M6 owner but have tried to be rational without a biased head on, I have one because I have always liked them and had a desire to own one. They are a little marmite with regard looks but I loved them from day one. Indeed I have owned different versions of the M3 & M5 these past 10 years but always desired the M6.
Hope this helps your thought process.
I would say from new they all depreciate about the same percentage wise for at least the first two years but after that I think things change. Certainly by the time the cars get to a more 'mature' stage (6 years plus) I think you will find the M6 will represent best value and the M3 the worst in both monetary and percentage terms.
I base my rational purely on what has already been highlighted, that of availability.
Unfortunately many versions of all three variants on the circuit today are now 3rd generation owned which means more and more will be owned by chavs and those who like the prestige of owning an M sport but cannot really afford to look after one.
Therefore a lot will have dreadful mods that serve only to devalue so it is fair to say a well maintained standard version of all three variants will attract a premium as by definition these standard versions will be harder to find.
Given the M6 is a far more rare bird than the 3&5 I think once you get to a more mature age I think residuals will hold up on this model far better, certainly in percentage terms but monetarily as well. It is worth noting both the M3&5 have been in production continuously for many years now, albeit in revamped versions but none-the-less still continuous where the M6 has not.
Therefore the M3&5 brand in whatever guise is out there in vast numbers whereas the M6 is not, when it did come to market production numbers were small, most of which were built in 2005 & 2006, after this numbers fall away.
These are naturally rare and good ones even more so which is why my offering on this topic based on the OP's question would be a 2005-2007 M6 as I think the others will depreciate a lot further but these at some point will hold.
I should say I am an E63 M6 owner but have tried to be rational without a biased head on, I have one because I have always liked them and had a desire to own one. They are a little marmite with regard looks but I loved them from day one. Indeed I have owned different versions of the M3 & M5 these past 10 years but always desired the M6.
Hope this helps your thought process.
Great post, Shadow,
I totally agree with you and think the new M6 is the best looking BMW at the moment. I really could not bring myself to pull the trigger on a M3, the image, courtesy imo to the buying plans has now and made it even more "chavy", as you say the mods wil be in force very shortly too which is a shame for the M brand as a whole. Don't get me wrong M3 owners, it's a fab car when the V8 is wound up, normal town driving was somewhat bland though but still a great car.
I do find the M5 and M6 so much more tempting, specially the 6, it has smooth lines and sits on the Tarmac beautifully..
I totally agree with you and think the new M6 is the best looking BMW at the moment. I really could not bring myself to pull the trigger on a M3, the image, courtesy imo to the buying plans has now and made it even more "chavy", as you say the mods wil be in force very shortly too which is a shame for the M brand as a whole. Don't get me wrong M3 owners, it's a fab car when the V8 is wound up, normal town driving was somewhat bland though but still a great car.
I do find the M5 and M6 so much more tempting, specially the 6, it has smooth lines and sits on the Tarmac beautifully..
Do you mean if you bought one brand new or nearly new?
If you do I'd say the M6 has to be the biggest depreciator. If you look at the previous model (E63) as a guide, it cost near enough £20k more than an M5 but there are E63's in the PH classifieds with less than 50k miles in the teens. Putting that into perspective they are now nearly cheaper than an equivalent Z4M Coupe which cost less than half an E63 did brand new. They must have been over £80k new, so £60-65k lost in 7 or 8 years. There's even a current (F13) version at Sytner Nottingham for £68k with only 3k on the clock and one at Centurion with 9 miles on for a shade under £80k (£20k below list) or 20% depreciation immediately!
If on the other hand you mean between an E92 M3 and E60/E63 M5/6 then I'd say the M3 will depreciate the most in the coming years as some of the other posters have suggested.
If you do I'd say the M6 has to be the biggest depreciator. If you look at the previous model (E63) as a guide, it cost near enough £20k more than an M5 but there are E63's in the PH classifieds with less than 50k miles in the teens. Putting that into perspective they are now nearly cheaper than an equivalent Z4M Coupe which cost less than half an E63 did brand new. They must have been over £80k new, so £60-65k lost in 7 or 8 years. There's even a current (F13) version at Sytner Nottingham for £68k with only 3k on the clock and one at Centurion with 9 miles on for a shade under £80k (£20k below list) or 20% depreciation immediately!
If on the other hand you mean between an E92 M3 and E60/E63 M5/6 then I'd say the M3 will depreciate the most in the coming years as some of the other posters have suggested.
pjv997 said:
Just crystal ball gazing.....
Whilst above are rational arguements, you could easily counter by saying the E9X M3 is the last NA M car and unmolested examples will be sought after, particularly manual versions as flappy paddles become de rigeur.
No one seems to want a manual one. Just look on M3 Cutters how few of the LE500 thread are manual?Whilst above are rational arguements, you could easily counter by saying the E9X M3 is the last NA M car and unmolested examples will be sought after, particularly manual versions as flappy paddles become de rigeur.
I wonder which will be more preferred in years to come ....
161BMW said:
No one seems to want a manual one. Just look on M3 Cutters how few of the LE500 thread are manual?
I wonder which will be more preferred in years to come ....
I think the paddles will prove more sort after..I wonder which will be more preferred in years to come ....
I think to get the best second hand value on any of the Ms, specially the 3, would be to keep it standard and in pristine condition. All my cars which I have sold on had been standard ( no mods ), pristine condition and low miles and I have always achieved above 50% residual value after 3 year. Mind you I really mean pristine, no kerbing and absolutely no entry kick marks on any of the interior. I drive the Mrs up the wall..
161BMW said:
pjv997 said:
Just crystal ball gazing.....
Whilst above are rational arguements, you could easily counter by saying the E9X M3 is the last NA M car and unmolested examples will be sought after, particularly manual versions as flappy paddles become de rigeur.
No one seems to want a manual one. Just look on M3 Cutters how few of the LE500 thread are manual?Whilst above are rational arguements, you could easily counter by saying the E9X M3 is the last NA M car and unmolested examples will be sought after, particularly manual versions as flappy paddles become de rigeur.
I wonder which will be more preferred in years to come ....
I do agree the DCT suits the high revving V8 arguably better than the manual & because bmw market the DCT so well they become quids in as most owners pay extra for it...I am still happy to have the slower old fashioned version though but it's each to thier own.
I think if you're buying an M car based on how much you may lose or what type of people drive them then your buying the wrong car. Just buy the one you enjoy the most! Surely an M car has to be about this rather than it may lose more than the next one??
OP, out of interest what do you drive?
OP, out of interest what do you drive?
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