E60 M5 Purcahse Dilema, a tale of two cars
E60 M5 Purcahse Dilema, a tale of two cars
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M777CUS

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267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Gents,

i am currently on the look for an E60 M5. i have whittled my search down to two M5's.

one is an AUC E60 M5, very nice specification, 56 plate. offered with 2 years full AUC warranty. currently sitting on 58k miles, the clutch i am told has not been replaced. it is over 100 miles away so not test driven it yet feel relatively comfortable with it given the details ive been provided with over the phone. 2 owner car.

second car is an E60 M5 from an indie, again very nice specification. I would put the fully comp AUC warranty on this car myself. it has only 30k miles on it, 07 plate. its not presented as well as the AUC car (mismatching tyres front and back). again didnt get to test drive it. again, its a 2 owner car.

i would plan on keeping the car for 2 years. (so with the AUC car, as soon as it was out of warranty i would look to get rid of it.)

so basically the query or question is would you buy a lower milage M5 from an indie, OR a higher milage M5 from a main dealer.

i do about 25k miles a year.

Edited by M777CUS on Thursday 17th October 09:00

rassi

2,515 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Is the 07 a facelift?

There would need to be at least 2K difference in price between the two, taking into account that you would get 1 year AUC and could possibly negotiate a second year included, for me to choose the 07 over the AUC one.

foreverfalling

561 posts

191 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Out of the 2 -I'd choose the 07 one personally - if you are going to add 50k miles to it your better to start with the lower mileage one, as trying to shift one with over 100k on the clock could be a lot, lot harder...

Personally i'd be considering something else if I were doing 25000 miles a year, like a Diesel for the long journeys and something else for the fun. We were running an Amg Merc for our 12-15000 miles a year and we are saving like £5k per year now were on a diesel BMW and its all going into the Ferrari funds smile


25000 miles a year in the e60 m5 will cost you £10k a year alone in fuel! Plus the tiny tank will annoy you?

BlackPorker

394 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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rassi said:
Is the 07 a facelift?
If it's this one:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...

Doesn't look like it.

Go and see and test drive BOTH cars. Judge on condition (not mileage) and gut feel. That 2 years AUC warranty would give you peace of mind... assume it's this one:
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details...

Tough choice... but nice choice to have! smile

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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foreverfalling said:
Out of the 2 -I'd choose the 07 one personally - if you are going to add 50k miles to it your better to start with the lower mileage one, as trying to shift one with over 100k on the clock could be a lot, lot harder...

Personally i'd be considering something else if I were doing 25000 miles a year, like a Diesel for the long journeys and something else for the fun. We were running an Amg Merc for our 12-15000 miles a year and we are saving like £5k per year now were on a diesel BMW and its all going into the Ferrari funds smile


25000 miles a year in the e60 m5 will cost you £10k a year alone in fuel! Plus the tiny tank will annoy you?
owned two V10's previously so yes, the short range does annoy but the sound/thrill/speed of driving more than makes up for it.

fuel card so those costs are covered.

in 2 years time how much more would an E60 with 80k miles be worth than a E60 M5 with 80k miles? thats the question i guess.

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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BlackPorker said:
rassi said:
Is the 07 a facelift?
If it's this one:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...

Doesn't look like it.

Go and see and test drive BOTH cars. Judge on condition (not mileage) and gut feel. That 2 years AUC warranty would give you peace of mind... assume it's this one:
http://www.approved.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/bmwauc/details...

Tough choice... but nice choice to have! smile
yeah, that is the right AUC car. the indie is this one:-

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...


andyeds1234

2,468 posts

196 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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M777CUS said:
owned two V10's previously so yes, the short range does annoy but the sound/thrill/speed of driving more than makes up for it.

fuel card so those costs are covered.

in 2 years time how much more would an E60 with 80k miles be worth than a E60 M5 with 80k miles? thats the question i guess.
If I were doing 25k miles per year, I personally, wouldn't go for an e60 M5.
Ignoring the fuel costs, visiting a petrol station to fill up twice a week, would get tiring very quickly.
Give it some regular stick, and the visits will be even more frequent.

Having said that, If you are OK with the fuel range, good luck with the search.

JRBM5

161 posts

165 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Buy on condition, not mileage.

In the situation you face, assuming the difference in price between the vehicles is minimal, I would take the AUC. Firstly being an AUC means that if something goes wrong you have a bigger entity to kick, additionally i would try and get them to change the clutch as a condition of the sale.

I think the difference in depreciation of the 2 cars over your 2 years of ownership will be nothing when compared to the overall costs of owning either of the cars.

BlackPorker

394 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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M777CUS said:
yeah, that is the right AUC car. the indie is this one:-

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
That's not a facelift and looks a bit scruffy from the photos. I'd be leaning towards the AUC one especially if you can negotiate a new clutch as part of the deal.

Edited by BlackPorker on Thursday 17th October 11:40

sumo69

2,164 posts

246 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Yes - AUC all the way if they throw in a 2nd years warranty (costs them £500) and a clutch change.

Perhaps offering full price subject to the above would get the deal,especially if you agree it on the last day of the month!

David

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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BlackPorker said:
M777CUS said:
yeah, that is the right AUC car. the indie is this one:-

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2013...
That's not a facelift and looks a bit scruffy from the photos. I'd be leaning towards the AUC one especially if you can negotiate a new clutch as part of the deal.

Edited by BlackPorker on Thursday 17th October 11:40
interior? bang on, in the flesh it looked like it needed a little love and a proper clean.


mondie

644 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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I may be breaking PH rules here, if so ignore me. My 07 LCI is up for grabs, better specced than the AUC car, has 8mths BMW warranty which can be extended too. Better optioned. cheaper

Cheers
mondie

BlackPorker

394 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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M777CUS said:
interior? bang on, in the flesh it looked like it needed a little love and a proper clean.
Exterior too. Tailpipes not sparkling, rusty wheel bolts and de-laminating wheel badges. All minor stuff which can be sorted but gives you a clue to how much attention the previous owner lavished on it.

BlackPorker

394 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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mondie said:
I may be breaking PH rules here, if so ignore me. My 07 LCI is up for grabs, better specced than the AUC car, has 8mths BMW warranty which can be extended too. Better optioned. cheaper

Cheers
mondie
It does look a good 'un and, in a previous thread, you said it looked the "perfect car". Combine the trip up to collect with a short break... then enjoy the long drive back! smile

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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mondie said:
I may be breaking PH rules here, if so ignore me. My 07 LCI is up for grabs, better specced than the AUC car, has 8mths BMW warranty which can be extended too. Better optioned. cheaper

Cheers
mondie
Mondie,

link to your add please? complicated as ive got a p/x to offload.

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Mondie, just seen your car. it does indeed look stunning. sticking point with my p/x though.

mondie

644 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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No worries, just another to throw into the mix when comparing what good value is

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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aye, yours appears to be stunning value in comparison.

M777CUS

Original Poster:

267 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Ok, just put a deposit down on the AUC E60 biggrin

mondie

644 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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well done, you didn't hang around!