Clarkson tests M car in today's Sunday Times

[trawler]

M car only gets four stars what do you think?

[TheAngryDog]

Oh no!!! Clarkson doesn't give an m car 5 stars!!

Everyone should email him and tell him he is wrong!!!

[-Z-]

Which M car?!

[whp1983]

520d msport (not an m car) ....a lovely car all the same though.

[trawler]

-Z- said:

Which M car?!

The one he would choose to go to the south of France to over a Ferrari 458

[-Z-]

I might be being thick but I'm very confused.

The car JC reviews today is a 520d, not an M car (nice waftmobile though) so not relevant..... Or the CSLers might come hunting.

Or you're talking about another article.....but you still haven't told us which car it is! M3? M5? M6?

At least give us a link? Although The Times site is pay walled.

[NIgt3]

If it's a 520d it's hardly an m car!! BMW's m marketing st seems to be working

[E30M3SE]

trawler said:

The one he would choose to go to the south of France to over a Ferrari 458

The ONLY reason I can think of for driving any M car to the South of France over a 458 is space, passenger or boot.........

Just sounds like more of the usual JC drivel.

[ratty6464]

Saw a 420d in the dealer's showroom. Even they now have ///M badges on the front wings. really diluting the brand.

The 640d looks really similar to the M6 from the side.

[ady702]

I'll wait to see the real thing on Top Gear

[General Zod]

trawler said:

The one he would choose to go to the south of France to over a Ferrari 458

He didn't say that. Said he's take Ferrari but regret it.

[physprof]

Having seen three new M sport cars in M&S food hall carpark today inc. an X5 all replete with M badges on body and then seeing OP query here I have now resolved to get the three original M badges off my Z4MR ASAP.

I'll be content in knowledge that what M capability the roadster has it is where it matters, the mechanicals such a engine, brakes, diff., steering and not 'M'arketing.

[trawler]

General Zod said:

He didn't say that. Said he's take Ferrari but regret it.

Exactly. iIf you regret something you have made a mistake, therefore he prefers the M car.

[General Zod]

trawler said:

Exactly. iIf you regret something you have made a mistake, therefore he prefers the M car.

No, not exactly. He theoretically chose the ferrari. Not the BMW as you said he did.

[jon-]

ratty6464 said:

Saw a 420d in the dealer's showroom. Even they now have ///M badges on the front wings. really diluting the brand.

The 640d looks really similar to the M6 from the side.

I've seen one of those.

My heart sank.

[Martin_M]

General Zod said:

No, not exactly. He theoretically chose the ferrari. Not the BMW as you said he did.

He's testing two cars, states that he would choose the ferrari to travel to France in but would regret it...therefore, he regards the M sport as being the better option (probably for the reasons stated above!)

[Terminator X]

I saw a M120d t'other day, my first thought was tt!

TX.

[zeduffman]

[HoHoHo]

ratty6464 said:

Saw a 420d in the dealer's showroom. Even they now have ///M badges on the front wings. really diluting the brand.

The 640d looks really similar to the M6 from the side.

To be fair, an F10 530 M Sport looks the same as my M5 from most angles!

I don't care, I know what I'm driving

[0836whimper]

NIgt3 said:

If it's a 520d it's hardly an m car!! BMW's m marketing st seems to be working

It is M I think, basically it's been tweaked by M Sport but retains the powerful 4pot diesel engine. They actually have more torque than the first M3 and are quicker round the ring as well as having better emissions etc.

Nice cars.