1M owners - what have you upgraded or changed on your car?
1M owners - what have you upgraded or changed on your car?
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shavenhaven

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465 posts

161 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Just interested smile

Mines totally standard atm - not sure whether to keep it and swap/add a few bits, or sell it now that i've 'scratched the itch' and move on. I like the look of the front splitter that i saw on a 1M at the Pistonheads Sunday Services, and i'd also be tempted to swap to Michelin Super Sports - money well spent? Maybe have a geo done?

Raptor222

47 posts

159 months

Saturday 25th January 2014
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Michelin Pilot supersports first, then a proper geo setup. Those two combined have made a great difference to mine.

I've ummed and arrghed about moving my 1M on but I can't really see what to sensibly replace the beast with given the opposition at the same price and the joy.


Johnb850

111 posts

197 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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I'm not a 1M owner but I've read that replacing the centre section of the exhaust with one from an N55 powered 135i gives decent performance gains and a great improvement in exhaust note. The N55 pipe doesnt contain secondary Cats therefore doesnt oppose the flow with as much restriction as the standard 1M pipe.

Its a total bolt off bolt on mod. No cutting or chopping required. And its a 100% OEM part.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65...

Slippydiff

16,152 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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shavenhaven said:
Just interested smile

Mines totally standard atm - not sure whether to keep it and swap/add a few bits, or sell it now that i've 'scratched the itch' and move on. I like the look of the front splitter that i saw on a 1M at the Pistonheads Sunday Services, and i'd also be tempted to swap to Michelin Super Sports - money well spent? Maybe have a geo done?
Sorry Shaven, I've only just noticed your question on the Porsche forum RE Supersports. I swapped the Michelin Pilot Sport Cups on my gen 1 997 GT3 for Supersports, the 1M stayed on PS2's.

The mods I did carry out were :

Sparco seat install.

Alcantara steering wheel.

N55 mid section.

Decent geo.

Replace the cheap 'n nasty looking tailpipes.

AP 6 pot front brakes with 368mm discs and RS29 pads (albeit they were only on the car for few weeks before I sold it).

Sparco seats :


Exhaust tips :


Steering wheel :


Brakes :

RyanK

9 posts

171 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Slippydiff said:
AP 6 pot front brakes with 368mm discs and RS29 pads (albeit they were only on the car for few weeks before I sold it).
How was the balance running only the front AP Kit?

I've been considering the AP brakes but was rumoured to believe that running front's only upsets the balance? To be honest, I can't stomach £5k for the full set.

Slippydiff

16,152 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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RyanK said:
How was the balance running only the front AP Kit?

I've been considering the AP brakes but was rumoured to believe that running front's only upsets the balance? To be honest, I can't stomach £5k for the full set.
Absolutely fine, no issues at all. I did the same on my CSL, again, no issues.
The caveat being both cars were used for fast (very) road use only. Track use may possibly uncover a balance issue, but if it did, I'd balance things out by experimenting with differing pad compounds front to rear.

P.S If your interested I still have the complete set (front and rear) off the 1M available for a lot less than £5k !


greygoose

9,491 posts

221 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Going to switch to Michelin Pilot super sports this year but standard apart from that, I haven't seen another car that really tempts me to change yet.

shavenhaven

Original Poster:

465 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Cheers guys for the replies. The N55 mod looks interesting!!

re geo - any recommendations? I am based in Nottingham

Like the steering wheel slippy smile

Super Sports if i keep it!

Raptor222

47 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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shavenhaven said:
Cheers guys for the replies. The N55 mod looks interesting!!

re geo - any recommendations? I am based in Nottingham
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/ over Atherstone way - Job done..

I forgot to say I also have the N55 mids - sounds greater when on cold start. smile




Zyp

15,958 posts

215 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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shavenhaven said:
or sell it now
'Kin hell.

That is all.

Pugland53

574 posts

196 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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When I had mine I changed to Supersports and thought they were a big improvement. If I had kept it I would have changed the seats to BMW Performance ones, far better than the standard ones IMO, they should have been an option from new.

DasChin

613 posts

242 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Supersports are excellent road tyres and about the best for all conditions.

had them on the CSL when I got it. now moved to Cups.

Super sports you can use in the wet. Cups are a real handful!

Slippydiff

16,152 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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N55 mid pipe mod a bit overated by our 1M owning friends across the pond IMO. It does allow the turbos to spool up a tad quicker, and as Simon says, it makes more noise during the initial cold start phase, and when things get really hot, allows a few more pops and crackles on the overrun (and good whump) when you change up close to the rev limiter.

Matt at Fearnsport will do a decent geo set up along with CG.

V8A*ndy

3,697 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Ok for the Geo setup what are we talking.

Just a tweak to ensure everything is in order or is there other "recommended" settings?

I would seriously consider doing the tyres and the exhaust though.

The wifes is currently totally boggo and she intends to keep it that way.

shavenhaven

Original Poster:

465 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Raptor222 said:
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/ over Atherstone way - Job done..

I forgot to say I also have the N55 mids - sounds greater when on cold start. smile
That's not too far away. Thanks

Pugland53 said:
When I had mine I changed to Supersports and thought they were a big improvement. If I had kept it I would have changed the seats to BMW Performance ones, far better than the standard ones IMO, they should have been an option from new.
I have supersports on the CSL - seem a very good tyre, but to be fair the only tyre i have had on the CSL so can't do a comparison. The Performance seats i'd like - trouble is though i have heated and electric seats so not desperate to swap smile

Slippydiff said:
Matt at Fearnsport will do a decent geo set up along with CG.
Cheers. I've only heard good things about Fearnsport too. Did Matt do yours?

V8A*ndy said:
I would seriously consider doing the tyres and the exhaust though.
re exhaust - i'd like to hear more 'noise'. From owning cars like the CSL, C63, GT3 etc.. i find the 1m very quiet in comparison.

Slippydiff

16,152 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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shavenhaven said:
re exhaust - i'd like to hear more 'noise'. From owning cars like the CSL, C63, GT3 etc.. i find the 1m very quiet in comparison.
They're a lot noisier outside than most give them credit for.
Yep Matt @ FS did the geo on mine. Played with the toe settings front and rear and wound on as much camber as possible (not a lot compared with Stuttgarts's finest mind)

Seats, geo and brakes were the biggest improvements. The standard seats are utterly hopeless (lack support and don't suit my freakish frame) The geo made the front a lot more grippy and stable, the brakes took the car to another level, the reduction in unsprung weight made the steering lighter, more feelsome and responsive. The improvement in braking power was all the more impressive, as the standard stoppers aren't bad (for a BMW)

shavenhaven

Original Poster:

465 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Slippydiff said:
They're a lot noisier outside than most give them credit for.
Yep Matt @ FS did the geo on mine. Played with the toe settings front and rear and wound on as much camber as possible (not a lot compared with Stuttgarts's finest mind)

Seats, geo and brakes were the biggest improvements. The standard seats are utterly hopeless (lack support and don't suit my freakish frame) The geo made the front a lot more grippy and stable, the brakes took the car to another level, the reduction in unsprung weight made the steering lighter, more feelsome and responsive. The improvement in braking power was all the more impressive, as the standard stoppers aren't bad (for a BMW)
I don't find the seats too bad tbh, for a BMW mind. Certainly wouldn't say NO to a set of CSL seats in it though. It's the handling/grip i feel needs tweaking - i find coupled with the PS2's, i lack confidence in the 1m. point to point I'm deffo quicker in the CSL - such a great car..


i need to make some decisions. Keep the 1m and spend a bob or two on getting it right (or how i'd like it?), or swap it for another 911

Raptor222

47 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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I actually found my CSL was easier to drive faster than my 1M at the same sort of speeds on the track. Both cars had PS2's.

I like the challenge of the 1M - very rewarding when you get it right and a real balance of the gas pedal/steering input - especially with the throttle M button activated which is too severe at times.

Another vote for CSL seats. Would be perfect for me.

Edited by Raptor222 on Sunday 26th January 20:47

Slippydiff

16,152 posts

249 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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At the risk of being castigated, my 1M had reached a level that driving it in the manner it deserved to be driven on the road, was only going to end one way. Accordingly I sold it rather than have what would've been the mother of all accidents.

It was that confidence inspiring I found myself applying dabs of "oppo" in 80-90 Lepton corners and then giggling that the car allowed me to drive it with such aplomb. Talk of 1M's with 400-450 hp just seems rather pointless for road use, the standard car is a perfect blend of usable power and grip.

I'd agree that the CSL (I drove 30k miles in mine over three years in all weathers) initially felt more usable and biddable, but get the geo setup on the 1M to your liking and you'll find it even more confidence inspiring than the CSL. The 1M feels like it has more front end grip, add in the additional weight over the CSL's sublime feel, and it allows you to take real liberties.


Raptor222

47 posts

159 months

Sunday 26th January 2014
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Agreed Henry that the 1M has more front end grip than the CSL but I find that 1M's rear is more 'twitchy' - partly due to the torque loading the tyres easier.