E46 M3 service history
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Hi all,
I've found a 2004 M3 SMG from a very reputable dealer however I would like a second opinion on the service history as it doesn't look right to me. They're asking for £13k dead and the mileage is sitting at 42k including a 6 month warranty which seems reasonable.
Pre Delivery Inspection 11/05/2004 @ BMW GB Ltd, Thorne
Run in Service done 16/07/2004
Serviced 11/01/2007 @ 18342 miles, main dealer - Oil Service
Serviced 01/05/2008 @ 26816 miles, main dealer - Oil & Micro Filter Service
Serviced 05/03/2010 @ 35400 miles, main dealer - Oil Service & routine maintenance check
Serviced 24/03/2012 @ 38139 miles, main dealer - Inspection 2 & Micro Filter Service
Serviced 10/04/2014 @ 40960 miles, main dealer - Brake Fluid Service
In 2008 @ 28,500 both front pads and discs were replaced
The dealer has a invoices for a few bits like: a new drop link, accelerator sensor, smg relay, pdc module, ultrasonic converter and bonnet gas struts.
As far as I'm aware the service schedule should run as follows: running in service / oil / insp 1 / insp 2 / repeat.
In my opinion it should have had an insp 1 service way back and 38k in 2012 is too long to wait for an insp 2. I would have changed the oil every -5k as well.
Any input would be great!
Cheers
I've found a 2004 M3 SMG from a very reputable dealer however I would like a second opinion on the service history as it doesn't look right to me. They're asking for £13k dead and the mileage is sitting at 42k including a 6 month warranty which seems reasonable.
Pre Delivery Inspection 11/05/2004 @ BMW GB Ltd, Thorne
Run in Service done 16/07/2004
Serviced 11/01/2007 @ 18342 miles, main dealer - Oil Service
Serviced 01/05/2008 @ 26816 miles, main dealer - Oil & Micro Filter Service
Serviced 05/03/2010 @ 35400 miles, main dealer - Oil Service & routine maintenance check
Serviced 24/03/2012 @ 38139 miles, main dealer - Inspection 2 & Micro Filter Service
Serviced 10/04/2014 @ 40960 miles, main dealer - Brake Fluid Service
In 2008 @ 28,500 both front pads and discs were replaced
The dealer has a invoices for a few bits like: a new drop link, accelerator sensor, smg relay, pdc module, ultrasonic converter and bonnet gas struts.
As far as I'm aware the service schedule should run as follows: running in service / oil / insp 1 / insp 2 / repeat.
In my opinion it should have had an insp 1 service way back and 38k in 2012 is too long to wait for an insp 2. I would have changed the oil every -5k as well.
Any input would be great!
Cheers
Edited by domc on Tuesday 8th July 18:12
joema said:
It's oil / insp / oil / inspection 2.
Inspection 2 would have covered it anyway and anything needed to be rectified so I would t worry.
Certainly wouldn't let a good car slip over that
My mistake, thank you.Inspection 2 would have covered it anyway and anything needed to be rectified so I would t worry.
Certainly wouldn't let a good car slip over that
I agree however I was just thinking with M3's you shouldn't miss services as that's when things get missed and cost in the long run.
Thanks for clarifying the schedule.
Pre Delivery Inspection 11/05/2004 @ BMW GB Ltd, Thorne
Run in Service done 16/07/2004
Serviced 11/01/2007 @ 18342 miles, main dealer - Oil Service - Done late, should have been done 2 years max after running in service, and they certainly didn't go 18K+ between services, should have had brake fluid change, also
Serviced 01/05/2008 @ 26816 miles, main dealer - Oil & Micro Filter Service -Should have been an Inspection I service
Serviced 05/03/2010 @ 35400 miles, main dealer - Oil Service & routine maintenance check
Serviced 24/03/2012 @ 38139 miles, main dealer - Inspection 2 & Micro Filter Service
Serviced 10/04/2014 @ 40960 miles, main dealer - Brake Fluid Service - Should have had an Oil Service too
It should have had brake fluid services every 2 years, not once in 10 years which is what that history shows, it isn't part of the service schedules so has to be requested as an additional item.
Run in Service done 16/07/2004
Serviced 11/01/2007 @ 18342 miles, main dealer - Oil Service - Done late, should have been done 2 years max after running in service, and they certainly didn't go 18K+ between services, should have had brake fluid change, also
Serviced 01/05/2008 @ 26816 miles, main dealer - Oil & Micro Filter Service -Should have been an Inspection I service
Serviced 05/03/2010 @ 35400 miles, main dealer - Oil Service & routine maintenance check
Serviced 24/03/2012 @ 38139 miles, main dealer - Inspection 2 & Micro Filter Service
Serviced 10/04/2014 @ 40960 miles, main dealer - Brake Fluid Service - Should have had an Oil Service too
It should have had brake fluid services every 2 years, not once in 10 years which is what that history shows, it isn't part of the service schedules so has to be requested as an additional item.
Edited by E30M3SE on Tuesday 8th July 20:00
Miles are low, but there are plenty around with a proper history.
£13k is top money for a std E46 M3, so it should be spot on for that money.
Has the floor / subframe been done? 10 yrs ( from build date) is the cut off point for BMW goodwill, factor another £2 k ish to plate it if it has not been done.
BMW solution is to replace the entire boot floor area with a new panel ( costing £4-5k).
£13k is top money for a std E46 M3, so it should be spot on for that money.
Has the floor / subframe been done? 10 yrs ( from build date) is the cut off point for BMW goodwill, factor another £2 k ish to plate it if it has not been done.
BMW solution is to replace the entire boot floor area with a new panel ( costing £4-5k).
darreni said:
Miles are low, but there are plenty around with a proper history.
£13k is top money for a std E46 M3, so it should be spot on for that money.
Has the floor / subframe been done? 10 yrs ( from build date) is the cut off point for BMW goodwill, factor another £2 k ish to plate it if it has not been done.
BMW solution is to replace the entire boot floor area with a new panel ( costing £4-5k).
Here's the link fella http://www.lawtonbrook.co.uk/current-stock/for-sal...£13k is top money for a std E46 M3, so it should be spot on for that money.
Has the floor / subframe been done? 10 yrs ( from build date) is the cut off point for BMW goodwill, factor another £2 k ish to plate it if it has not been done.
BMW solution is to replace the entire boot floor area with a new panel ( costing £4-5k).
I've heard of the subframe issues but it hasn't been mentioned by them so I guess not. Approximately, how common would you say the problem is? I was under the impression it only effected a small percentage. Still learning haha
You say that but I've looked at a few and the history on this one is good compared!
BalhamBadger said:
I think the wheels and Schnitzer tat would put me off! It's also a relatively basic spec and they're asking strong money for a car with a flawed service history.
I agree. It was the fact where the vehicle was coming from that was appealing to me; they do have an excellent reputation. I thought I was onto a winner before I received the vehicle's history. The search continues!There's better out there for the money. Dont think the service history would fuss me too much knowing that the insp2 would pick everything up that needed doing.
The main thing is keeping the oil fresh and the only other thing to worry about is the valve clearances and diff oil which is insp 2 anyway. The rest of the checks are mostly suspension related and are all consumable items which you can tell if theyre out by listening for knocks etc.
The car isnt likely to implode because it's missed someone shining a torch at it.
As usual service history should be secondary to a good test drive and check.
The main thing is keeping the oil fresh and the only other thing to worry about is the valve clearances and diff oil which is insp 2 anyway. The rest of the checks are mostly suspension related and are all consumable items which you can tell if theyre out by listening for knocks etc.
The car isnt likely to implode because it's missed someone shining a torch at it.
As usual service history should be secondary to a good test drive and check.
Crap looking car with crap spec and crap history for top money. Hmmmm?
The first owner just din't bother getting it serviced in the 2.5 years he had it. Great start, probably the sort of chap who made sure it was up to temperature properly before redlining it everywhere then.
Walk away from it.
The first owner just din't bother getting it serviced in the 2.5 years he had it. Great start, probably the sort of chap who made sure it was up to temperature properly before redlining it everywhere then.
Walk away from it.
As above I would walk away and did so for a similar one November last year
To add some perspective I bought a March 2006 Vert (with hardtop) proper FBMWSH and std spec from a BMW dealer so AUC with good spec, Sat Nav, Bluetooth, heated seats etc in December last year with 57,000 miles for £13k
Here it is
To add some perspective I bought a March 2006 Vert (with hardtop) proper FBMWSH and std spec from a BMW dealer so AUC with good spec, Sat Nav, Bluetooth, heated seats etc in December last year with 57,000 miles for £13k
Here it is
joema said:
There's better out there for the money. Dont think the service history would fuss me too much knowing that the insp2 would pick everything up that needed doing.
The main thing is keeping the oil fresh and the only other thing to worry about is the valve clearances and diff oil which is insp 2 anyway. The rest of the checks are mostly suspension related and are all consumable items which you can tell if theyre out by listening for knocks etc.
The car isnt likely to implode because it's missed someone shining a torch at it.
As usual service history should be secondary to a good test drive and check.
So what happened to the valve clearances being done, diff oil & spark plugs being changed at the correct intervals, bit more missed than shining of a torch..........The main thing is keeping the oil fresh and the only other thing to worry about is the valve clearances and diff oil which is insp 2 anyway. The rest of the checks are mostly suspension related and are all consumable items which you can tell if theyre out by listening for knocks etc.
The car isnt likely to implode because it's missed someone shining a torch at it.
As usual service history should be secondary to a good test drive and check.
Stone Cold said:
As above I would walk away and did so for a similar one November last year
To add some perspective I bought a March 2006 Vert (with hardtop) proper FBMWSH and std spec from a BMW dealer so AUC with good spec, Sat Nav, Bluetooth, heated seats etc in December last year with 57,000 miles for £13k
Here it is
Lovely, I'll keep an eye on Approved Used BMW but they have absolutely nothing at the moment. To add some perspective I bought a March 2006 Vert (with hardtop) proper FBMWSH and std spec from a BMW dealer so AUC with good spec, Sat Nav, Bluetooth, heated seats etc in December last year with 57,000 miles for £13k
Here it is
Did it come with any warranty? 12 months?
E30M3SE said:
So what happened to the valve clearances being done, diff oil & spark plugs being changed at the correct intervals, bit more missed than shining of a torch..........
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