BMW M6 V10 - more problems!
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This is starting to feel familiar as I'm typing this....
I took my car to Bolton on Tuesday with my daughter, thinking we'd have a lovely daddy-daughter day together, (yeah I know, Bolton isn't lovely, but they have that Steak Bus thing which I love).
Anyway, as I get there, I get stuck in traffic and the car suddenly turns off. I'm thinking "WTF now???". How can a car without a clutch pedal stall like that?
Then....my PDC fails just as I am reversing. I nearly hit someone thinking "yepppp, plenty of room...oh sh*ttt I don't have plenty of room". Big yellow light comes on, PDC failure highlighted in idrive. Great(!)
Wait....it gets better.
On the way home, car starts to feel lumpy as though it is weighed down by an anchor. It's still fast and can out-accelerate anything that wants to have a go but it feels really 'lumpy'. As though a coil is not working or something. Then, under a little acceleration burst in 5th or 6th gear this comes up in the idrive (ignore the date, it's an old picture I took previously)

It's as though the gearbox can't cope with the torque and an error comes up. I wasn't even going fast and was well within the national speed limit.
So, I drove home and very angry I just drove into the BMW dealership and told them to take the car and fix it. It is under warranty and it shouldn't be a problem. One small issue....they are fully booked until the 3rd of September but if they have an opening time slot available or cancellation they'll look at my car.
I know it is Summer and all, but howwww lonnnnggg? Is this the norm with main dealerships, long summer backlogs and the like? I'm not angry at the dealership, they have work to do and good on them but I'm not sure what is more frustrating, the car or being in such a long queue?
Anyway, rant over.
I'd love to say "these are great cars guys" but I just don't feel the love any more unfortunately. Should have stuck to the C63 AMG when I had it

I took my car to Bolton on Tuesday with my daughter, thinking we'd have a lovely daddy-daughter day together, (yeah I know, Bolton isn't lovely, but they have that Steak Bus thing which I love).
Anyway, as I get there, I get stuck in traffic and the car suddenly turns off. I'm thinking "WTF now???". How can a car without a clutch pedal stall like that?
Then....my PDC fails just as I am reversing. I nearly hit someone thinking "yepppp, plenty of room...oh sh*ttt I don't have plenty of room". Big yellow light comes on, PDC failure highlighted in idrive. Great(!)
Wait....it gets better.
On the way home, car starts to feel lumpy as though it is weighed down by an anchor. It's still fast and can out-accelerate anything that wants to have a go but it feels really 'lumpy'. As though a coil is not working or something. Then, under a little acceleration burst in 5th or 6th gear this comes up in the idrive (ignore the date, it's an old picture I took previously)

It's as though the gearbox can't cope with the torque and an error comes up. I wasn't even going fast and was well within the national speed limit.
So, I drove home and very angry I just drove into the BMW dealership and told them to take the car and fix it. It is under warranty and it shouldn't be a problem. One small issue....they are fully booked until the 3rd of September but if they have an opening time slot available or cancellation they'll look at my car.
I know it is Summer and all, but howwww lonnnnggg? Is this the norm with main dealerships, long summer backlogs and the like? I'm not angry at the dealership, they have work to do and good on them but I'm not sure what is more frustrating, the car or being in such a long queue?
Anyway, rant over.
I'd love to say "these are great cars guys" but I just don't feel the love any more unfortunately. Should have stuck to the C63 AMG when I had it

Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
gaz1234 said:
oh dear. these are high maintenance.
Definately. The idle control seems to be a problem on the S85 V10 from what I can gather. The gearbox issues are all well documented as we all know. On the bright side, no red cog of death has come up. 
(I want to laugh, but inside I feel like crying

Edited by Schermerhorn on Thursday 14th August 10:38
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.
Schermerhorn said:
Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.
You get other cars from them? Any commercial leverage?
Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Soov535 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Shaoxter said:
Sorry to hear that. But I think you just got a lemon...
I think so too. To be fair, it has been fine for the last 4 months and then 3 problems occur all within hours of each other.Is it too late to return it? Fight supplying dealer etc?
Purchased with 67500 miles. Now on 69800 from memory. Just under 2500 miles in less than 9 months.
You get other cars from them? Any commercial leverage?
Just get it fixed and then sell it back to them or go chop it in for another C63, IIRC you did a lot of hand wringing on here about buying a reliable one so it's a shame that you managed to buy a lemon.
And if the dealer can't start work on it until September just take it to another one, plenty of BMW dealers around.
And if the dealer can't start work on it until September just take it to another one, plenty of BMW dealers around.
cosworth330 said:
I've had my E60 M5 for nearly a year and have a BMW warranty but never had to use it, had no issues at all it's been just as reliable as any other car I've had. I know I could get a problem at any time but looking back through your posts you've had a lot issues.
Simon
It has been back 5 times but the issues really have been the VANOS (visit 2 and 3) and the transmissiom issue (visit 4)Simon
Visit 2 and 4 they just cleared faults rather than fixing hardware.
Visit 5 I am hoping for hardware replacement and rectification rather than fault clearing on a computer.
They are a good garage though and service has been very good everytime. Unfortunately my car was not prepped properly and they wanted to hit their monthly sales target and get the sale (imo).
Edited by Schermerhorn on Thursday 14th August 19:37
jonah35 said:
I just don't think I could be bothered with the hassle. I think your car is lovely but to be honest id rather have a brand new diesel with no problems.
More headache than its worth but it does appear youve got a lemon,
Logos luck
Brand new diesel? Need make sure it's Euro VI compliant.More headache than its worth but it does appear youve got a lemon,
Logos luck
When the previous owner of my M5 road tested it at BMW main dealer (AUC car) it was on 39k and the Red cog came on whilst test driving. The salesman said don't worry sir we will reset the clutch settings !!! He told them to put a new clutch / fly or no deal. It clutch fly & CPS before sale . Luck I suppose as that red cog could have come on a few weeks after sale.
cosworth330 said:
I've had my E60 M5 for nearly a year and have a BMW warranty but never had to use it, had no issues at all it's been just as reliable as any other car I've had. I know I could get a problem at any time but looking back through your posts you've had a lot issues.
Simon
I'm the same with my M6 V10 monster... Touch wood it continues to be a dream to live with...Simon
Sorry to hear of your problems

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