Should I sell my M6?
Should I sell my M6?
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Schermerhorn

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4,352 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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With prices on older BMW M models creeping up, would it be wise to hold on to my M6 V10?

It has had issues in the past but all of them have been rectified under warranty. I've had it on for sale for a little while, and aside from the odd time waster and tyre kicker I don't seem to be having much joy in being anywhere near a sale.

I could keep advertising it and still make little progress or sell it to webuyanycar.com for a 'guaranteed' sale

...or.....

hold on to it in the hope it goes up in value much the same as older M cars have done.

What say ye?


Gruber

6,313 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I can't help feeling that the scare stories and running costs of these (and the e60 M5) will act as a barrier to any meaningful appreciation in the short to medium term. Indeed, I'd have thought they still have a way to fall yet.

Really low mileage, immaculate examples will inevitably buck the trend. But it would seem perverse to me to own such a thing and not drive it.

snowley

183 posts

152 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Depends on many factors, including personal financial situation. If you can afford to keep it and the car has all usual problems rectified then I would enjoy it!

Why are you thinking of selling in the first place? Fancy a change?

Schermerhorn

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4,352 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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snowley said:
Depends on many factors, including personal financial situation. If you can afford to keep it and the car has all usual problems rectified then I would enjoy it!

Why are you thinking of selling in the first place? Fancy a change?
I don't really get to enjoy it as much as I thought I would.

I'm also in the process of setting up some new business ventures which take most of my day up and travelling up and down the M1 and M62 can get very expensive in such a car.

This and because every kn0b in a Tdi Audi or Golf wants to race you which can become very tiresome!

jcolley

183 posts

152 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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In the US, I think we're starting to see the bottom of the market and it will hold here for a while before it starts to turn. As the novelty of picking up a 507HP V10 for the price of a Camry wears off and the reality of owning/maintaining said supercar is apparent, I think ownership will shift more towards enthusiasts. Also, as the other luxury marquees introduce vehicles with superior performance and economy, the car desirability shifts more towards the enthusiast as well.

There's a surprising number of people who have moved on from the M5 and M6 only to be shopping for one again. There's no comparison to visceral, raw feel the car can exhibit when called for. It's much like the transition from the E46 M3 to the E92 M3, performance was improved, but a lot of the raw emotion was detached.

I think these cars, even with their demanding maintenance nature, are a evident of an apogee in M division's history. They were perceived as crazy for stuffing the engine and transmission they did into the M5 and made no concessions towards watering it down to appeal to the masses more as they have in follow-on productions.

You own a piece of automotive history and remarkable performer. Unless you're pressed for parking space or financially motivated to sell, I think you'll be hard pressed not to regret the decision if you do sell.

Schermerhorn

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4,352 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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jcolley said:
In the US, I think we're starting to see the bottom of the market and it will hold here for a while before it starts to turn. As the novelty of picking up a 507HP V10 for the price of a Camry wears off and the reality of owning/maintaining said supercar is apparent, I think ownership will shift more towards enthusiasts. Also, as the other luxury marquees introduce vehicles with superior performance and economy, the car desirability shifts more towards the enthusiast as well.

There's a surprising number of people who have moved on from the M5 and M6 only to be shopping for one again. There's no comparison to visceral, raw feel the car can exhibit when called for. It's much like the transition from the E46 M3 to the E92 M3, performance was improved, but a lot of the raw emotion was detached.

I think these cars, even with their demanding maintenance nature, are a evident of an apogee in M division's history. They were perceived as crazy for stuffing the engine and transmission they did into the M5 and made no concessions towards watering it down to appeal to the masses more as they have in follow-on productions.

You own a piece of automotive history and remarkable performer. Unless you're pressed for parking space or financially motivated to sell, I think you'll be hard pressed not to regret the decision if you do sell.
Honestly Jim, for me anyway, the novelty has worn off. The car is awesome, brakes, grip, in gear performance etc are above anything I have ever experienced in a car before but there is something that just hasn't 'clicked' for me like I thought it would.

Don't get me wrong - aside from fuel consumption - this is an awesome car. It is also a halo or an icon of a car and in the future will be held in high regard - in my opinion only - as the original E30 M3 or maybe E46 M3 CSL.

torres del paine

1,588 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I've always viewed the V10 M5/6 as autobahn cars. I think they're wasted in this country where triple digits is a hanging offence. A car like yours would delight and frustrate me in equal measure. Knowing how wonderful these cars are wrung out at speed, the temptation to at least double the NSL frequently would do my head in. To top it all, for the rest of the time I'd wish I had a nimbler, lighter and sharper car, such as an M3/CS/CSL for typical UK a and b roads. Hmm

Schermerhorn

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4,352 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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torres del paine said:
I've always viewed the V10 M5/6 as autobahn cars. I think they're wasted in this country where triple digits is a hanging offence. A car like yours would delight and frustrate me in equal measure. Knowing how wonderful these cars are wrung out at speed, the temptation to at least double the NSL frequently would do my head in. To top it all, for the rest of the time I'd wish I had a nimbler, lighter and sharper car, such as an M3/CS/CSL for typical UK a and b roads. Hmm
I agree 100%. At 70mph, the car feels strangled and the temptation to go faster is ever present. I remember the first time I put my foot down on a back country road and I hit nearly 140mph in no time at all. Stupid I know but the way it piles on speed is nothing short of mental. On the other end....the lack of low down torque is a real bug bear. It's almost as if below 2500rpm there is a flat spot in the engine where nothing really happens and then as it climbs (over 4000rpm especially) all hell breaks loose.

rassi

2,515 posts

277 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Schermerhorn said:
I agree 100%. At 70mph, the car feels strangled and the temptation to go faster is ever present. I remember the first time I put my foot down on a back country road and I hit nearly 140mph in no time at all. Stupid I know but the way it piles on speed is nothing short of mental. On the other end....the lack of low down torque is a real bug bear. It's almost as if below 2500rpm there is a flat spot in the engine where nothing really happens and then as it climbs (over 4000rpm especially) all hell breaks loose.
Agree (based on my E60 M5 experience) that this is a natural autobahn cruiser, where the natural cruise speed is around 180-200 kph, where the engine feels completely effortless and it is in the right part of the rev range. However, this is countered by the puny fuel tank which severely limits range - 100 litre tank should have been optional!

I also understand that you somewhat lost confidence in the car, given the range of mechanical problems you experienced (even if sorted out under warranty). If so, selling is the only way forward.

Shaoxter

4,563 posts

150 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Go to the Nurburgring/Spa, I reckon that will make you "bond" with the car, certainly did for me smile
Personally I think you'll regret it, you've had a lot of problems with it but now that they're fixed, hopefully you've have some trouble free motoring ahead.

Out of interest where have you advertised the car?

RDMcG

20,671 posts

233 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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When I picked up my M6 from the factory, I drove it directly to Hartge in Beckingen and had it delimited....and a week later did this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I


In terms of being an autobahn car it was simply astonishing. I have had many quickish cars, and now am into GT3RS for my adrenalin, but the M6 was very special indeed. I had it from six years from new and loved it.....

Nat_H

977 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Shaoxter said:
Go to the Nurburgring/Spa, I reckon that will make you "bond" with the car, certainly did for me smile
I agree, best thing I did with mine, planting your right foot in 4th and 5th is addictive.



JMBMWM5

2,389 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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Gruber said:
I can't help feeling that the scare stories and running costs of these (and the e60 M5) will act as a barrier to any meaningful appreciation in the short to medium term. Indeed, I'd have thought they still have a way to fall yet.

Really low mileage, immaculate examples will inevitably buck the trend. But it would seem perverse to me to own such a thing and not drive it.
Probably the best paragraph I have read in a long while.
Totally agree.
However, IF you are now "out of Love", then get shot.
My M6GC CP is also "Mental" but at law braking speeds, it is fast becoming a licence risk.
I just can not use it to anywhere near intended in the UK.

I will not be keeping it for more than 18 months tops.


Edited by JMBMWM5 on Thursday 12th March 08:20

pjv997

668 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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JMBMWM5 said:
My M6GC CP is also "Mental" but at law braking speeds, it is fast becoming a licence risk.
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Thursday 12th March 08:20
I think you could substitute M3, M4 or M5 for M6GC as modern performance cars are just becoming so quick with the performance being easily accessible.

My M5 is the first car I have owned that I feel uncomfortable 'thrashing' on the public road for anything more than a short burst. I didn't get that uneasiness with my E90 M3 or my 997s.

Schermerhorn

Original Poster:

4,352 posts

215 months

Thursday 12th March 2015
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One of the main reasons why I've fallen out of love with my car is because you have to work so damn hard to access the performance. I loved it at first but my own perceptions and opinions have changed a lot since then.

I know a lot of people like this and it is a classic M car trait but I do now prefer the low down torque and grunt of AMG models and the F10 M5. To have instant power is great. To be doing 4000rpm and then get the power can become quite tiresome even if the car does spin up very quickly in 1st and 2nd gear to get you there.

Epic on back country roads though where I think the S85 V10 can really be in its element and the engine car really 'flow'.