320D Courtesy Car
Discussion
Evening folks!
I was kindly given one of these today.....diesel estate....manual....but M-sport!!
Am I the only one who can't get on with the ergonomics of these things?
Off-set clutch pedal, coupled with a very uncomfortable driving position, with a less than smooth gearbox and awkward changing positions, gave me a sore neck and headache after only half an hour.
It was truly awful.
I love manuals, but BMW can surely do better than this.
How are you supposed to say change down from sixth to fifth to fourth to third without a series of arm/body contortions??
Maybe they're so used to autos that manual needs are ergonomically overlooked.
I also sat in a new CTR today....wow....keen drivers will just love those things, mark my words.....sweet Honda box was
perfectly positioned and felt so snickety snick!
I was kindly given one of these today.....diesel estate....manual....but M-sport!!
Am I the only one who can't get on with the ergonomics of these things?
Off-set clutch pedal, coupled with a very uncomfortable driving position, with a less than smooth gearbox and awkward changing positions, gave me a sore neck and headache after only half an hour.
It was truly awful.
I love manuals, but BMW can surely do better than this.
How are you supposed to say change down from sixth to fifth to fourth to third without a series of arm/body contortions??
Maybe they're so used to autos that manual needs are ergonomically overlooked.
I also sat in a new CTR today....wow....keen drivers will just love those things, mark my words.....sweet Honda box was
perfectly positioned and felt so snickety snick!
Jazzer said:
I also sat in a new CTR today....wow....keen drivers will just love those things, mark my words.....sweet Honda box was
perfectly positioned and felt so snickety snick!
Honda have also been good at nice gearboxes, My EP3 CTR and S2000 I had were fine examples of that. In fact I can't think of anything better in that regard from all the cars I've driven.perfectly positioned and felt so snickety snick!
I know.....I've never driven a BMW manual that I thought was good.....the E39 M5 was the best box-wise.
The high clutch and uncomfortable position of the stick made this one terrible to drive.....and I pride myself in being a smooth, mechanically sympathetic driver.
Getting my F10 back was wonderful.....we forget just how great these things are!
The high clutch and uncomfortable position of the stick made this one terrible to drive.....and I pride myself in being a smooth, mechanically sympathetic driver.
Getting my F10 back was wonderful.....we forget just how great these things are!
I borrowed the missus 3 series the other day and properly shat myself. I drive an old school 911 most of the time with the peddles offset to the left. Half way up the M1 with the cruise control on I came up behind a car but was boxed in as cars were passing to the right. I tapped what I thought was the brake pedal but the car continued at its 80mph pace towards the car in front. I hit what I thought was the brake peddle 3 times before I realised I was banging the clutch peddle. The first time I've ever done that in 20 years of driving and all my fault but its strange what offset can do if you switch to unfamiliar cars.
Slippydiff said:
Jazzer said:
Evening folks!
I was kindly given one of these today.....diesel estate....manual....but M-sport!!
Am I the only one who can't get on with the ergonomics of these things?
Off-set clutch pedal, coupled with a very uncomfortable driving position, with a less than smooth gearbox and awkward changing positions, gave me a sore neck and headache after only half an hour.
It was truly awful.
I love manuals, but BMW can surely do better than this.
How are you supposed to say change down from sixth to fifth to fourth to third without a series of arm/body contortions??
Maybe they're so used to autos that manual needs are ergonomically overlooked.
I also sat in a new CTR today....wow....keen drivers will just love those things, mark my words.....sweet Honda box was
perfectly positioned and felt so snickety snick!
Offset clutch pedal truly ghastly (and dangerous too, ask me how I know. ....)I was kindly given one of these today.....diesel estate....manual....but M-sport!!
Am I the only one who can't get on with the ergonomics of these things?
Off-set clutch pedal, coupled with a very uncomfortable driving position, with a less than smooth gearbox and awkward changing positions, gave me a sore neck and headache after only half an hour.
It was truly awful.
I love manuals, but BMW can surely do better than this.
How are you supposed to say change down from sixth to fifth to fourth to third without a series of arm/body contortions??
Maybe they're so used to autos that manual needs are ergonomically overlooked.
I also sat in a new CTR today....wow....keen drivers will just love those things, mark my words.....sweet Honda box was
perfectly positioned and felt so snickety snick!
Personally I can see no reason to go with the manual option, the ZF 8 speed auto is that good.
I can think of no reason for a manual 320d to exist.
The 8 speed auto is epic and so well suited to the engine.
Don't get me wrong, I can understand why some prefer a third pedal, in a drivers car. But in a 320d?
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