F10 M5 Help required - Condition of this brake Disc
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Hi All,
Looking at a private F10 M5 and Asked the seller to send me over some pics of the condition of the alloys and discs.
What are peoples opinions of this, I know its hard to tell but is this normal for disc condition?
I like the rest of the car but if dics are due soon then its something I need to think about. Apparently Idrive is showing front pads due in 20k, rear is 27k.
Looking at a private F10 M5 and Asked the seller to send me over some pics of the condition of the alloys and discs.
What are peoples opinions of this, I know its hard to tell but is this normal for disc condition?
I like the rest of the car but if dics are due soon then its something I need to think about. Apparently Idrive is showing front pads due in 20k, rear is 27k.
IATM said:
Hi All,
Looking at a private F10 M5 and Asked the seller to send me over some pics of the condition of the alloys and discs.
What are peoples opinions of this, I know its hard to tell but is this normal for disc condition?
I like the rest of the car but if dics are due soon then its something I need to think about. Apparently Idrive is showing front pads due in 20k, rear is 27k.
It's difficult to say from the picture as you can't see the lip. They always look rusty after the car has been washed. Pads often last longer than the disks. What's the mileage of the car? I was told they normally require disks\pads between 30-40k depending on driving style.Looking at a private F10 M5 and Asked the seller to send me over some pics of the condition of the alloys and discs.
What are peoples opinions of this, I know its hard to tell but is this normal for disc condition?
I like the rest of the car but if dics are due soon then its something I need to think about. Apparently Idrive is showing front pads due in 20k, rear is 27k.
IATM said:
V5Ade,
Yeah totally agree with you it is hard, I do plan on getting an inspection done but after I got the pics I was a little taken aback for the look of them but as you said that sometimes happens even if a car has been sitting for 2 days.
The car has 32k on it. 4 services at BMW
Mines on 34k and I'm expecting to replace all the disks\pads at the next service. Gulp!Yeah totally agree with you it is hard, I do plan on getting an inspection done but after I got the pics I was a little taken aback for the look of them but as you said that sometimes happens even if a car has been sitting for 2 days.
The car has 32k on it. 4 services at BMW
V5Ade said:
IATM said:
V5Ade,
Yeah totally agree with you it is hard, I do plan on getting an inspection done but after I got the pics I was a little taken aback for the look of them but as you said that sometimes happens even if a car has been sitting for 2 days.
The car has 32k on it. 4 services at BMW
Mines on 34k and I'm expecting to replace all the disks\pads at the next service. Gulp!Yeah totally agree with you it is hard, I do plan on getting an inspection done but after I got the pics I was a little taken aback for the look of them but as you said that sometimes happens even if a car has been sitting for 2 days.
The car has 32k on it. 4 services at BMW
Of course an an indy it might be around 1500. TO be honest thats not bad for an M car. I usually drive larger ex cars and they are are around 1k right for the same work so for an M5 I cant gruble!
it cost me 650 pounds at an indi to get the Mrs Pug 308 with discs and pads all round!
IATM said:
Yeah you'll be due a heart attack. Just called up the main dealer to get an idea of "current Prices", all round discs/pads fully fitted etc just under 2k (inc 10% discount).
Of course an an indy it might be around 1500. TO be honest thats not bad for an M car. I usually drive larger ex cars and they are are around 1k right for the same work so for an M5 I cant gruble!
it cost me 650 pounds at an indi to get the Mrs Pug 308 with discs and pads all round!
£2k fitted is acceptable for that car I guess. Can I ask how you got the 10% discount?Of course an an indy it might be around 1500. TO be honest thats not bad for an M car. I usually drive larger ex cars and they are are around 1k right for the same work so for an M5 I cant gruble!
it cost me 650 pounds at an indi to get the Mrs Pug 308 with discs and pads all round!
V5Ade said:
IATM said:
Yeah you'll be due a heart attack. Just called up the main dealer to get an idea of "current Prices", all round discs/pads fully fitted etc just under 2k (inc 10% discount).
Of course an an indy it might be around 1500. TO be honest thats not bad for an M car. I usually drive larger ex cars and they are are around 1k right for the same work so for an M5 I cant gruble!
it cost me 650 pounds at an indi to get the Mrs Pug 308 with discs and pads all round!
£2k fitted is acceptable for that car I guess. Can I ask how you got the 10% discount?Of course an an indy it might be around 1500. TO be honest thats not bad for an M car. I usually drive larger ex cars and they are are around 1k right for the same work so for an M5 I cant gruble!
it cost me 650 pounds at an indi to get the Mrs Pug 308 with discs and pads all round!
Just spoke to an Indy who said the best price they could do was £2,020 due to parts being expensive from BMW... Indy is not always cheapest!
They don't look brilliant and I would say at 32k the rears will either need doing or will have been done.
Mine rear pads have just been done about 1000 miles ago and here's a picture of the disk
My car hasn't been cleaned for a few week and there's a build up of dust in the cooling holes but I would say good overall contact between the pad and disk.
Here are my fronts
There's something about the inner edges of his disks that just don't look right.
I also doubt there's 20K left in the front pads unless he doesn't drive the car. No two cars are the same that's for sure but I would guess front pads last not much more than 40k absolute tops.
Mine rear pads have just been done about 1000 miles ago and here's a picture of the disk
My car hasn't been cleaned for a few week and there's a build up of dust in the cooling holes but I would say good overall contact between the pad and disk.
Here are my fronts
There's something about the inner edges of his disks that just don't look right.
I also doubt there's 20K left in the front pads unless he doesn't drive the car. No two cars are the same that's for sure but I would guess front pads last not much more than 40k absolute tops.
stain said:
I'm not sure how reliably you can use I Drive to assess brake pad wear. My pad thicknesses are currently 11mm front and 7mm rear. The car has done 20k miles and I-Drive is telling me the rears will need changing in 3k miles.
What's the minimum thickness & also brand new thickness. The OPs pics, one disc badly scored, depending on how many miles you do it could be 1/2/3 more years out of them. Driving style makes a massive difference - potentially one driver could get 140k out of a set of discs on an M5 whereas I know one driver of a 320d who somehow genuinely wears a full set of discs out in just shy of 20k miles & more to the point motorway miles.... f
k knows how but have heard stories of some passengers who point blank refuse to go ULEN that car again. Welshbeef said:
stain said:
I'm not sure how reliably you can use I Drive to assess brake pad wear. My pad thicknesses are currently 11mm front and 7mm rear. The car has done 20k miles and I-Drive is telling me the rears will need changing in 3k miles.
What's the minimum thickness & also brand new thickness. The OPs pics, one disc badly scored, depending on how many miles you do it could be 1/2/3 more years out of them. Driving style makes a massive difference - potentially one driver could get 140k out of a set of discs on an M5 whereas I know one driver of a 320d who somehow genuinely wears a full set of discs out in just shy of 20k miles & more to the point motorway miles.... f
k knows how but have heard stories of some passengers who point blank refuse to go ULEN that car again. IATM said:
It's the scored disk which is the thing putting me off. The two pics I put up are the worst of the 4 wheels but the other two wheels not posted up are still not on an ideal shape to be honest.
You have to assume they are original - what's the price like/if you can get some movement on the condition of consumables it might help/you can then change them when they need changing @£2k+ but that could be years away. OP - the fronts appear to have radial cracking in the discs and are heavily scored in the centre band. The rears have a strange rust band on the inner edge. The pads should clean this section so I suggest the rears are also knackered.
Pads are cheap, it's the discs that cost a lot.
Also HoHoHo your front discs have cracks starting from vent holes, that's an MOT fail and they should be replaced.
Pads are cheap, it's the discs that cost a lot.
Also HoHoHo your front discs have cracks starting from vent holes, that's an MOT fail and they should be replaced.
mikeN54 said:
OP - the fronts appear to have radial cracking in the discs and are heavily scored in the centre band. The rears have a strange rust band on the inner edge. The pads should clean this section so I suggest the rears are also knackered.
Pads are cheap, it's the discs that cost a lot.
Hi Mike, Pads are cheap, it's the discs that cost a lot.
Thats very helpful. This is why I posted on here to get viewpoints like this.
As far as I am concerned all the brakes would need done on this M5.
mikeN54 said:
OP - the fronts appear to have radial cracking in the discs and are heavily scored in the centre band. The rears have a strange rust band on the inner edge. The pads should clean this section so I suggest the rears are also knackered.
Pads are cheap, it's the discs that cost a lot.
Also HoHoHo your front discs have cracks starting from vent holes, that's an MOT fail and they should be replaced.
Yes, I'm aware of that and they'll need changing prior to the MOT which is why I'm ending my lease two months early so I'm not hit with a bill for parts I'll not use!Pads are cheap, it's the discs that cost a lot.
Also HoHoHo your front discs have cracks starting from vent holes, that's an MOT fail and they should be replaced.
mikeN54 said:
Also HoHoHo your front discs have cracks starting from vent holes, that's an MOT fail and they should be replaced.
Not sure cracks emanating from vent holes are an issue until they actually connect holes together.And not sure a lease company can charge you for new brakes while there is enough meat on the pads and discs are not at the wear limit.
AW10 said:
mikeN54 said:
Also HoHoHo your front discs have cracks starting from vent holes, that's an MOT fail and they should be replaced.
Not sure cracks emanating from vent holes are an issue until they actually connect holes together.And not sure a lease company can charge you for new brakes while there is enough meat on the pads and discs are not at the wear limit.
at the moment my iDrive is showing 6000 miles on the front pads and by the time I hand it back it will probably say 4000 which is cool. Even if it says 1000, providing any given service requirement is not overdue you're OK.
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