E39 M5 wont start after flat battery
E39 M5 wont start after flat battery
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Ecosse79

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74 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Hi all. I wondered if anyone could assist me with the following. My E39 M5 recently had a flat battery which I tried to jump start with my jump pack. This didn't work and the starter motor was just clicking, so I charged the car battery up to a healthy 12.9 volts. When I went to crank the car for the first time the engine started for about 2 seconds and then shut down. It now wont start and is just turning over on the starter motor. I have checked all of the fuses in the glove compartment and in the boot and they all look to be ok. I have also listened to the fuel pumps with the ignition on and they seem to be making all the correct noises. I am hoping I have not blown anything when jump starting and certainly hoping its not the ECU! Has anyone got any ideas? Many thanks

rfsteel

733 posts

187 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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How did you connect the jump leads, directly to the battery terminals or via the jumping terminals in the engine bay ?

Not an S62 engine, but these are the jumping terminals;



Edited by rfsteel on Friday 3rd February 13:37

Ecosse79

Original Poster:

74 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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I connected my jump pack initially to the engine terminals and then after no luck I connected them directly to the battery. I don't think my jump pack had enough juice to start the car so I charged the battery fully to around 12.9v. The car now just turns over on the starter motor but wont actually start. I am wondering if I have blown something somewhere in the electrical system or the immobiliser isn't allowing the engine to start..

tjlazer

875 posts

191 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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You need a heck of a lot of juice to jump the m5. If using an ordinary car you'll have to run it for 20 mins or so before it has enough to fire up. I had a long running drain issue and this became quite familiar. The AA man always had to use the van power to get it going, the charger packs and standard leads won't cut it. Trust me the car will be fine you just need MORE POWER!!

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

133 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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tjlazer said:
You need a heck of a lot of juice to jump the m5. If using an ordinary car you'll have to run it for 20 mins or so before it has enough to fire up. I had a long running drain issue and this became quite familiar. The AA man always had to use the van power to get it going, the charger packs and standard leads won't cut it. Trust me the car will be fine you just need MORE POWER!!
Yep. This. You need POWER!!

Make sure you have good HD Duty cable's and let the donor car run for a few minutes. Other than that you have enough petrol right?

chris116

1,166 posts

185 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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tjlazer said:
You need a heck of a lot of juice to jump the m5. If using an ordinary car you'll have to run it for 20 mins or so before it has enough to fire up. I had a long running drain issue and this became quite familiar. The AA man always had to use the van power to get it going, the charger packs and standard leads won't cut it. Trust me the car will be fine you just need MORE POWER!!
It's still a bugger to jump start! Breakdown guy must have spent over an hour last year trying to do it, ended up charging the battery from the van then jumping it.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Sounds like the battery has had it so simply get a nice new Bosch silver 5 years hassle free.

rfsteel

733 posts

187 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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AndStilliRise said:
Yep. This. You need POWER!!
You sure do



TheAngryDog

12,676 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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needs 13.5v in the battery iirc.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

215 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Why doesn't Op just buy a new battery and be done with it?

ds666

3,045 posts

196 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Quite - I never understand why people solder on with poor batteries - still at least they can start next topics related to various electrical problems for the next few months ...

TheAngryDog

12,676 posts

226 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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this is what I have done. By battery went flat. New one bought.

warsteiner///M3

154 posts

208 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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has the ews jumped out of alignment..?
can sometimes happen with a very very weak battery, as one module can rollover to the next code but another module doesn't have enough juice..

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

133 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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TheAngryDog said:
this is what I have done. By battery went flat. New one bought.
Maybe, like me, the M5 does not get used a great deal, living in London. I tend to use mine every 2 or 3 weeks on a weekend, so the battery does frequently run down

ds666

3,045 posts

196 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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[quote=warsteiner///M3]has the ews jumped out of alignment..?

See what I mean - there is a crowdfunding page for m5 batteries - google it

Elliot2000

785 posts

193 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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This - probably just needs resetting on a laptop and I'll be away


warsteiner///M3 said:
has the ews jumped out of alignment..?
can sometimes happen with a very very weak battery, as one module can rollover to the next code but another module doesn't have enough juice..

TheAngryDog

12,676 posts

226 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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AndStilliRise said:
TheAngryDog said:
this is what I have done. By battery went flat. New one bought.
Maybe, like me, the M5 does not get used a great deal, living in London. I tend to use mine every 2 or 3 weeks on a weekend, so the battery does frequently run down
mine hasn't been used since September

Ecosse79

Original Poster:

74 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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I will put a new battery in if thats required but my smart charger says the battery is 100% ok. Will try another battery and go from there...

warsteiner///M3

154 posts

208 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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might be an idea to get the fault codes read too

nw942

466 posts

122 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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Ecosse79 said:
I will put a new battery in if thats required but my smart charger says the battery is 100% ok. Will try another battery and go from there...
If the battery is heavily sulphated the charger will say it's fully charged, but it won't actually be able to deliver the current you need when starting the car. The giveaway is that the charger is very quick to say that it is fully charged when you first try and charge it.