F13 M6 - engine failure
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Opinions sought re engine failure (F13 M6 - 2016 43000m)
Engine properly serviced and maintained - engine cut out whilst driving 60mph - no warning - temperature normal - just felt like running out of petrol - no noises/smells/obvious signs. Recovered to BMW agent - told that engine is seized - could be £20k bill!!!
How are BMW at support of what was their flagship model?
Engine properly serviced and maintained - engine cut out whilst driving 60mph - no warning - temperature normal - just felt like running out of petrol - no noises/smells/obvious signs. Recovered to BMW agent - told that engine is seized - could be £20k bill!!!
How are BMW at support of what was their flagship model?
Here is an older thread from here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
£16k bill and BMW asked the customer to contribute £2500. It was just out of warranty.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
£16k bill and BMW asked the customer to contribute £2500. It was just out of warranty.
If it's unmodified and under extended warranty from BMW, I'd expect they'll give you a new engine. If you don't have a warranty, you're looking for goodwill, and the amount you'll get will depend on the relationship you have with the garage it's at. If you've had it serviced on time at the dealer, odds are they'll do something for you.
If this is the first time they've seen you in a few years, you've got no warranty, and you usually get it serviced by an independent then you're likely out of luck...
Will be interested to read what outcome you get.
If this is the first time they've seen you in a few years, you've got no warranty, and you usually get it serviced by an independent then you're likely out of luck...
Will be interested to read what outcome you get.
Get the prayer mat out for some goodwill. Very surprised at that age & mileage; had it been using much oil? If you owned from new that I would think a good chance of assistance. If bought used and not bought through the network (or would have a full M warranty) I think you may be struggling unless you have a very good long standing relationship with BMW dealer or buying history.
Hi - Good luck upon getting this sorted. I have a 2013 M5 from that era and that engine. Brought privately and the first thing I did was purchase a full comprehensive BMW Warranty at £900 a year for piece of mind. These engines the S63 twin-turbo charged V8 are known to go pop. Great engine BHP and Torque but many are going bang. I wouldn't own one without a warranty.
I can tell you I know someone who was in a similar situation as you a few months back with the same engine, even with good will they still had to part with around 16k to get it sorted, but was better than the 25-30k original bill, but they had to fight for this discount.
My car is on similar mileage to yours and I have had it for 7-8 months, it seems to ask for engine oil top up 1L every 1500 to 2000 miles. Did your car require oil? Has anyone else got a similar car and require oil top ups regular? But i know if it goes pop I have the relationship with the dealer for many years and a full warranty to back it.
I can tell you I know someone who was in a similar situation as you a few months back with the same engine, even with good will they still had to part with around 16k to get it sorted, but was better than the 25-30k original bill, but they had to fight for this discount.
My car is on similar mileage to yours and I have had it for 7-8 months, it seems to ask for engine oil top up 1L every 1500 to 2000 miles. Did your car require oil? Has anyone else got a similar car and require oil top ups regular? But i know if it goes pop I have the relationship with the dealer for many years and a full warranty to back it.
Edited by BM Man on Thursday 23 January 10:08
BM Man said:
Hi - Good luck upon getting this sorted. I have a 2013 M5 from that era and that engine. Brought privately and the first thing I did was purchase a full comprehensive BMW Warranty at £900 a year for piece of mind. These engines the S63 twin-turbo charged V8 are known to go pop. Great engine BHP and Torque but many are going bang. I wouldn't own one without a warranty.
I can tell you I know someone who was in a similar situation as you a few months back with the same engine, even with good will they still had to part with around 16k to get it sorted, but was better than the 25-30k original bill, but they had to fight for this discount.
My car is on similar mileage to yours and I have had it for 7-8 months, it seems to ask for engine oil top up 1L every 1500 to 2000 miles. Did your car require oil? Has anyone else got a similar car and require oil top ups regular? But i know if it goes pop I have the relationship with the dealer for many years and a full warranty to back it.
I did have it in my head the engine fitted would be around 25-30k, replies above quoting 16k seems cheap! I can tell you I know someone who was in a similar situation as you a few months back with the same engine, even with good will they still had to part with around 16k to get it sorted, but was better than the 25-30k original bill, but they had to fight for this discount.
My car is on similar mileage to yours and I have had it for 7-8 months, it seems to ask for engine oil top up 1L every 1500 to 2000 miles. Did your car require oil? Has anyone else got a similar car and require oil top ups regular? But i know if it goes pop I have the relationship with the dealer for many years and a full warranty to back it.
Edited by BM Man on Thursday 23 January 10:08
I have an M6 GC and wouldn’t dream of running one without a warranty
BM Man said:
My car is on similar mileage to yours and I have had it for 7-8 months, it seems to ask for engine oil top up 1L every 1500 to 2000 miles. Did your car require oil? Has anyone else got a similar car and require oil top ups regular? But i know if it goes pop I have the relationship with the dealer for many years and a full warranty to back it.
A bit of a google will show you this can be an issue with these engines. General consensus seems to be that it happens if the car didn't get driven hard enough in the running in period! Something about seals not bedding down properly. BMW quote 1L every 1k miles is within acceptable tolerances but seems an awful lot to me. Mine needed 1L of oil after 6-7k miles of buying it and levels have been very steady since then.Edited by BM Man on Thursday 23 January 10:08
OP hope you get some serious good will from BMW - would not want to be faced with a bill like that...wouldn't dream of running mine without the warranty
Edited by hawker1986 on Friday 24th January 06:45
IT1GTR said:
The S63tu engine is a great engine, but a few have died recently because of bearings and failed injectors.
Hope it all gets sorted! My M5 is on 90k and i've just head the bearings and injectors done as a precaution by Redish Motorsport.
Funny how many engines made by bmw have "rod bearing replacement" as a service item. Is it the same for other manufacturers I wonder. Hope it all gets sorted! My M5 is on 90k and i've just head the bearings and injectors done as a precaution by Redish Motorsport.
What were the old bearings like?
Weekendrebuild said:
These engines are not known for either failure listed above ?? There common failure had been oil starvation as far as I was aware not spun bearings
I'm aware of 3 blown engines from failed injectors and 2 from spun bearings from various forums.I had Redish Motorsport do the bearings, I think it works out at about 3-4 days labour, they used my car as a template to build some special tools to do the job. Seemed silly not to do the injectors when I found the OEM Bosch ones for £60 each on Autodoc.
IT1GTR said:
I'm aware of 3 blown engines from failed injectors and 2 from spun bearings from various forums.
I had Redish Motorsport do the bearings, I think it works out at about 3-4 days labour, they used my car as a template to build some special tools to do the job. Seemed silly not to do the injectors when I found the OEM Bosch ones for £60 each on Autodoc.
Those bearings look in good condition to me, were there any comments on them from Redish? I had Redish Motorsport do the bearings, I think it works out at about 3-4 days labour, they used my car as a template to build some special tools to do the job. Seemed silly not to do the injectors when I found the OEM Bosch ones for £60 each on Autodoc.
Weekendrebuild said:
These engines are not known for either failure listed above ?? There common failure had been oil starvation as far as I was aware not spun bearings
^^ this, I understand the early motors had an oil pump issue which was resolved later on, see also: https://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=748... and https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...Edited by puttything on Monday 27th January 10:20
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