M2 - which one?
Discussion
Keen to get a manual M2.
Question is which one.
Is the OG LCI N55 the one to go for or is the comp worth the money….
I’m told N55 sounds better than S55 and sound is important and just overall fun.
Car will be added to a Manual 911 Turbo S already in the stable so outright speed is not the main concern.
Appreciate any owners advice.
N55 Tunable/ Reliable ?
Question is which one.
Is the OG LCI N55 the one to go for or is the comp worth the money….
I’m told N55 sounds better than S55 and sound is important and just overall fun.
Car will be added to a Manual 911 Turbo S already in the stable so outright speed is not the main concern.
Appreciate any owners advice.
N55 Tunable/ Reliable ?
I think there is a few variables, firstly whats your budget? nearly a 10 grand difference between an OG M2 and a Comp
N55 might sound better but its less tuneable, has different seats, exterior changes etc
I have an M2 comp and it did indeed sound horrendous as standard, a equal length mid pipe has transformed that, S55 stage one is putting you well above 500bhp , its highly tuneable and offers immense cooling capability as standard., its also arguably better engine wise having a proper rev happy S engine (and it is indeed an amazing engine)
I guess it depends what you want, if budget no issue then the M2 comp a better car overall, its it worth the premium over a OG M2? Down to the person buying to make that decision, for me it was.
N55 might sound better but its less tuneable, has different seats, exterior changes etc
I have an M2 comp and it did indeed sound horrendous as standard, a equal length mid pipe has transformed that, S55 stage one is putting you well above 500bhp , its highly tuneable and offers immense cooling capability as standard., its also arguably better engine wise having a proper rev happy S engine (and it is indeed an amazing engine)
I guess it depends what you want, if budget no issue then the M2 comp a better car overall, its it worth the premium over a OG M2? Down to the person buying to make that decision, for me it was.
I think there is a few variables, firstly whats your budget? nearly a 10 grand difference between an OG M2 and a Comp
N55 might sound better but its less tuneable, has different seats, exterior changes etc
I have an M2 comp and it did indeed sound horrendous as standard, a equal length mid pipe has transformed that, S55 stage one is putting you well above 500bhp , its highly tuneable and offers immense cooling capability as standard., its also arguably better engine wise having a proper rev happy S engine (and it is indeed an amazing engine)
I guess it depends what you want, if budget no issue then the M2 comp a better car overall, its it worth the premium over a OG M2? Down to the person buying to make that decision, for me it was.
N55 might sound better but its less tuneable, has different seats, exterior changes etc
I have an M2 comp and it did indeed sound horrendous as standard, a equal length mid pipe has transformed that, S55 stage one is putting you well above 500bhp , its highly tuneable and offers immense cooling capability as standard., its also arguably better engine wise having a proper rev happy S engine (and it is indeed an amazing engine)
I guess it depends what you want, if budget no issue then the M2 comp a better car overall, its it worth the premium over a OG M2? Down to the person buying to make that decision, for me it was.
Michael-lxb9y said:
I think there is a few variables, firstly whats your budget? nearly a 10 grand difference between an OG M2 and a Comp
N55 might sound better but its less tuneable, has different seats, exterior changes etc
I have an M2 comp and it did indeed sound horrendous as standard, a equal length mid pipe has transformed that, S55 stage one is putting you well above 500bhp , its highly tuneable and offers immense cooling capability as standard., its also arguably better engine wise having a proper rev happy S engine (and it is indeed an amazing engine)
I guess it depends what you want, if budget no issue then the M2 comp a better car overall, its it worth the premium over a OG M2? Down to the person buying to make that decision, for me it was.
This.N55 might sound better but its less tuneable, has different seats, exterior changes etc
I have an M2 comp and it did indeed sound horrendous as standard, a equal length mid pipe has transformed that, S55 stage one is putting you well above 500bhp , its highly tuneable and offers immense cooling capability as standard., its also arguably better engine wise having a proper rev happy S engine (and it is indeed an amazing engine)
I guess it depends what you want, if budget no issue then the M2 comp a better car overall, its it worth the premium over a OG M2? Down to the person buying to make that decision, for me it was.
I owned an OG for 3.5yrs when bought it I test drove the manual for a full day, I had to convince myself that Bmw manuals are better (previously owned new E36 M3 and E46 M3) because every car mag was raving on about manual M2’s.
I didn’t like it so I ended up with the dct which I personally think suits the car imo, fast forward to 2020 i px’ed the OG for the comp and never really looked back on the OG yeah it doesn’t sound as good but that can be easily sorted with a Remus and res delete (OG had a full Remus) and the small improvements they made on the comp are noticeable coming out of the old and into the new one, bizarrely which are not mechanical apart from the engine but probably down to software on the diff and steering.
I'm another one who thinks that the S55 engine is a very good match to the DCT. It definitely feels like a lot of work has gone into making them a really good partnership.
I originally wanted a manual F82 M4...but I'm pleased that I ended up going for the DCT now. I don't hanker anywhere near as much for the manual version as I thought I would to be fair.
As said the S55 is a great engine, and it amazes me how rev happy it is for a turbo engine. It is a best of both worlds engine for me. Punchy/torquey and fairly high revving.
I originally wanted a manual F82 M4...but I'm pleased that I ended up going for the DCT now. I don't hanker anywhere near as much for the manual version as I thought I would to be fair.
As said the S55 is a great engine, and it amazes me how rev happy it is for a turbo engine. It is a best of both worlds engine for me. Punchy/torquey and fairly high revving.
I have a 2017 manual OG and love it.
Since owning it I have put on a MPE and gone Stage 1 with BM3 and upgraded the charge pipe and installed a sports CAT. I also have the 763M (CS Style) wheels
When I was looking (late 2019) I could have got a Comp on a good PCP deal but they were all DCT and I wanted a manual. Sound is important to me too so that was another reason for wanting an OG.
The seats are not the best but some say they are more comfy that the Comp seats. The ride/handling can be twitchy but its not my daily so for me its not a problem. Its a perfect size for smaller roads and with the tune it has just the right amount of power to get it down on the road.
I love the looks and the way it handles and it sounds bonkers. With the current climate I cant see me being able to afford the new M2 (or the 240i for that matter) but I have a daily driver so for occasional use its just perfect for me.
If you can stretch to a Comp I would drive them both and decide, both are great cars.
Since owning it I have put on a MPE and gone Stage 1 with BM3 and upgraded the charge pipe and installed a sports CAT. I also have the 763M (CS Style) wheels
When I was looking (late 2019) I could have got a Comp on a good PCP deal but they were all DCT and I wanted a manual. Sound is important to me too so that was another reason for wanting an OG.
The seats are not the best but some say they are more comfy that the Comp seats. The ride/handling can be twitchy but its not my daily so for me its not a problem. Its a perfect size for smaller roads and with the tune it has just the right amount of power to get it down on the road.
I love the looks and the way it handles and it sounds bonkers. With the current climate I cant see me being able to afford the new M2 (or the 240i for that matter) but I have a daily driver so for occasional use its just perfect for me.
If you can stretch to a Comp I would drive them both and decide, both are great cars.
I owned an N55 M2 (manual) for 3 years and loved it. It’s got bags of character and always felt special and fun.
I’ve not owned an S55 but have driven a few DCT examples. Although they have more power and handling is supposed to be better I weirdly always found them a bit dull in comparison. Having a manual may help this but they are super rare and carry a premium.
Personally I’d save the money and buy a nice N55 and in time tweak the suspension if you felt it needed that. Or buy an M4 as they somehow feel so much more special and aggressive than an S55 M2 ever could. That would be my recommendation. But need to get the LCI M4 comp in the sweet spot just before petrol particulate filter was added (the ones with the black starter button). Feels like you get so much more car than on an M2.
Go and drive some as they all feel very different.
I’ve not owned an S55 but have driven a few DCT examples. Although they have more power and handling is supposed to be better I weirdly always found them a bit dull in comparison. Having a manual may help this but they are super rare and carry a premium.
Personally I’d save the money and buy a nice N55 and in time tweak the suspension if you felt it needed that. Or buy an M4 as they somehow feel so much more special and aggressive than an S55 M2 ever could. That would be my recommendation. But need to get the LCI M4 comp in the sweet spot just before petrol particulate filter was added (the ones with the black starter button). Feels like you get so much more car than on an M2.
Go and drive some as they all feel very different.
AAAndy said:
I owned an N55 M2 (manual) for 3 years and loved it. It’s got bags of character and always felt special and fun.
I’ve not owned an S55 but have driven a few DCT examples. Although they have more power and handling is supposed to be better I weirdly always found them a bit dull in comparison. Having a manual may help this but they are super rare and carry a premium.
Personally I’d save the money and buy a nice N55 and in time tweak the suspension if you felt it needed that. Or buy an M4 as they somehow feel so much more special and aggressive than an S55 M2 ever could. That would be my recommendation. But need to get the LCI M4 comp in the sweet spot just before petrol particulate filter was added (the ones with the black starter button). Feels like you get so much more car than on an M2.
Go and drive some as they all feel very different.
The M4 feels too big compared to M2 Comp, I’ve had both and i feel so much more comfortable chucking the M2 about and still have it, although I haven’t used it since my GR Yaris turned up. -Simple remap and the aggression and blistering performance is unleashed. I’ve not owned an S55 but have driven a few DCT examples. Although they have more power and handling is supposed to be better I weirdly always found them a bit dull in comparison. Having a manual may help this but they are super rare and carry a premium.
Personally I’d save the money and buy a nice N55 and in time tweak the suspension if you felt it needed that. Or buy an M4 as they somehow feel so much more special and aggressive than an S55 M2 ever could. That would be my recommendation. But need to get the LCI M4 comp in the sweet spot just before petrol particulate filter was added (the ones with the black starter button). Feels like you get so much more car than on an M2.
Go and drive some as they all feel very different.
Each to there own of course.
FatManJim said:
The M4 feels too big compared to M2 Comp, I’ve had both and i feel so much more comfortable chucking the M2 about and still have it, although I haven’t used it since my GR Yaris turned up. -Simple remap and the aggression and blistering performance is unleashed.
Each to there own of course.
That is really interesting to read. If I had both a M2 Comp and a GR Yaris...the Yaris wouldn't get a look in for me(granted I've not had a go in one though). Each to there own of course.
What makes the GR Yaris more exciting/enjoyable than the M2 Comp then? It is the smaller size/lower weight that does it? I'm intrigued.
cerb4.5lee said:
FatManJim said:
The M4 feels too big compared to M2 Comp, I’ve had both and i feel so much more comfortable chucking the M2 about and still have it, although I haven’t used it since my GR Yaris turned up. -Simple remap and the aggression and blistering performance is unleashed.
Each to there own of course.
That is really interesting to read. If I had both a M2 Comp and a GR Yaris...the Yaris wouldn't get a look in for me(granted I've not had a go in one though). Each to there own of course.
What makes the GR Yaris more exciting/enjoyable than the M2 Comp then? It is the smaller size/lower weight that does it? I'm intrigued.
If I had to sell one of them it I’m not sure which one I choose.
I went out to buy the new M3 X Drive and came home with a Yaris… not sure how it happened lol.
FatManJim said:
cerb4.5lee said:
FatManJim said:
The M4 feels too big compared to M2 Comp, I’ve had both and i feel so much more comfortable chucking the M2 about and still have it, although I haven’t used it since my GR Yaris turned up. -Simple remap and the aggression and blistering performance is unleashed.
Each to there own of course.
That is really interesting to read. If I had both a M2 Comp and a GR Yaris...the Yaris wouldn't get a look in for me(granted I've not had a go in one though). Each to there own of course.
What makes the GR Yaris more exciting/enjoyable than the M2 Comp then? It is the smaller size/lower weight that does it? I'm intrigued.
If I had to sell one of them it I’m not sure which one I choose.
I went out to buy the new M3 X Drive and came home with a Yaris… not sure how it happened lol.
Funnily enough I'd love a M4 X Drive one day too.
FatManJim said:
AAAndy said:
I owned an N55 M2 (manual) for 3 years and loved it. It’s got bags of character and always felt special and fun.
I’ve not owned an S55 but have driven a few DCT examples. Although they have more power and handling is supposed to be better I weirdly always found them a bit dull in comparison. Having a manual may help this but they are super rare and carry a premium.
Personally I’d save the money and buy a nice N55 and in time tweak the suspension if you felt it needed that. Or buy an M4 as they somehow feel so much more special and aggressive than an S55 M2 ever could. That would be my recommendation. But need to get the LCI M4 comp in the sweet spot just before petrol particulate filter was added (the ones with the black starter button). Feels like you get so much more car than on an M2.
Go and drive some as they all feel very different.
The M4 feels too big compared to M2 Comp, I’ve had both and i feel so much more comfortable chucking the M2 about and still have it, although I haven’t used it since my GR Yaris turned up. -Simple remap and the aggression and blistering performance is unleashed. I’ve not owned an S55 but have driven a few DCT examples. Although they have more power and handling is supposed to be better I weirdly always found them a bit dull in comparison. Having a manual may help this but they are super rare and carry a premium.
Personally I’d save the money and buy a nice N55 and in time tweak the suspension if you felt it needed that. Or buy an M4 as they somehow feel so much more special and aggressive than an S55 M2 ever could. That would be my recommendation. But need to get the LCI M4 comp in the sweet spot just before petrol particulate filter was added (the ones with the black starter button). Feels like you get so much more car than on an M2.
Go and drive some as they all feel very different.
Each to there own of course.
I ended up getting a Cayman R to replace it, together with an UP GTi for the local running around (alongside the bigger family car). So a very different garage set up now, but it's great to experience different things.
Good Thread and informative as not had an M BMW since my 2004.
What’s stirred me up is how good a friends 2018 M2 Comp is.
It Has been heavily modified but it is an absolute beast on track and infinitely cheaper than a GT3RS or Turbo but no less slow.
In our group we all track regularly for social and fun days but we are also competitive.
I may be wrong but for £35-40k you can pick up a good Comp and with a DMS tune get over 530bhp.
Clearly you can spend £1,000’s more but is the 2018 Comp the pick of the bunch of you want to modify it for track.
Cheers
What’s stirred me up is how good a friends 2018 M2 Comp is.
It Has been heavily modified but it is an absolute beast on track and infinitely cheaper than a GT3RS or Turbo but no less slow.
In our group we all track regularly for social and fun days but we are also competitive.
I may be wrong but for £35-40k you can pick up a good Comp and with a DMS tune get over 530bhp.
Clearly you can spend £1,000’s more but is the 2018 Comp the pick of the bunch of you want to modify it for track.
Cheers
Rocketreid said:
Good Thread and informative as not had an M BMW since my 2004.
What’s stirred me up is how good a friends 2018 M2 Comp is.
It Has been heavily modified but it is an absolute beast on track and infinitely cheaper than a GT3RS or Turbo but no less slow.
In our group we all track regularly for social and fun days but we are also competitive.
I may be wrong but for £35-40k you can pick up a good Comp and with a DMS tune get over 530bhp.
Clearly you can spend £1,000’s more but is the 2018 Comp the pick of the bunch of you want to modify it for track.
Cheers
I went for an M2 Comp….What’s stirred me up is how good a friends 2018 M2 Comp is.
It Has been heavily modified but it is an absolute beast on track and infinitely cheaper than a GT3RS or Turbo but no less slow.
In our group we all track regularly for social and fun days but we are also competitive.
I may be wrong but for £35-40k you can pick up a good Comp and with a DMS tune get over 530bhp.
Clearly you can spend £1,000’s more but is the 2018 Comp the pick of the bunch of you want to modify it for track.
Cheers
Very happy with it so far…
Old school feel, got to respect it though!!!👍
Megaflow said:
I went for an OG. For a few reasons, while I could have stretched to a Comp, it was more than I was comfortable spending, the servicing of the S55 is a lot more than the N55 and I didn’t like the LCI/Comp instruments, much preferred the traditional light grey M gauges and the sound.
100%Either is a good choice with positives and negatives. OG has traditional dials, is lighter with better noise whilst comp has seats and S55. You can’t go wrong with any and you need to decide what’s right for you.
I bought a fully loaded manual OG with MPE and sunroof (to enjoy the noise) even though I knew the comp was coming at the time because it sounds incredible and I didn’t want an S55. I’m not a track driver. I think in the future the grey dials will be very much sought after.
Mc F said:
Keen to get a manual M2.
Question is which one.
Is the OG LCI N55 the one to go for or is the comp worth the money….
I’m told N55 sounds better than S55 and sound is important and just overall fun.
Car will be added to a Manual 911 Turbo S already in the stable so outright speed is not the main concern.
Appreciate any owners advice.
N55 Tunable/ Reliable ?
Well, as the owner of an MT LCI, I've ended up retrofitting the extra chassis bracing, seats and mirrors from the M2C. When I test drove the M2C it was generally quieter (not just the exhaust), and - as the previous sentence indicates - had a number upgrades that were worthwhile. Question is which one.
Is the OG LCI N55 the one to go for or is the comp worth the money….
I’m told N55 sounds better than S55 and sound is important and just overall fun.
Car will be added to a Manual 911 Turbo S already in the stable so outright speed is not the main concern.
Appreciate any owners advice.
N55 Tunable/ Reliable ?
On mine the clutch was replaced under warranty as it wasn't releasing properly (leading to a very obstructive shift), but it's been fine otherwise.
The N55 doesn't appear to be as prone to spinning the crank hub as the S55 might be (depending on which bits of the internet you read).
HTH
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