E60 M5 without warranty
Discussion
I really would not recommend one without a BMW warranty. I have had my 2006 for a year and so far it has had:-
Numerous rattles, which are still not fixed.
Sunroof decided to stop working.
New clutch / flywheel.
Red cog of death (only once and has not come on since.)
New steering wheel - paint peeling off.
I can't remember what else but it would have cost me £4000 if I didn't have the warranty!
This does NOT include servicing or oil.
The dealer has been superb although they did admit that the M5 can be complicated..
I have taken it up with BMW UK and they acknowleged it is not what to expect but the best they could do was a contribution of 1/2 of the extended warranty cost (£451.00)
I have accepted this as it gives me piece of mind for the next year, although I can't say I'm particularly happy about it.
Numerous rattles, which are still not fixed.
Sunroof decided to stop working.
New clutch / flywheel.
Red cog of death (only once and has not come on since.)
New steering wheel - paint peeling off.
I can't remember what else but it would have cost me £4000 if I didn't have the warranty!
This does NOT include servicing or oil.
The dealer has been superb although they did admit that the M5 can be complicated..
I have taken it up with BMW UK and they acknowleged it is not what to expect but the best they could do was a contribution of 1/2 of the extended warranty cost (£451.00)
I have accepted this as it gives me piece of mind for the next year, although I can't say I'm particularly happy about it.
Edited by Cayenne on Tuesday 26th May 20:52
Contacting BMW direct invariably leads back to the Dealer. I asked for a regional technical advisor to meet with me and the service manager which enabled action to fix a problem with the carbon roof.
Water had got between the gel coat and fibre weave after stone chipping damage and yes BMW did fix under warranty.
Water had got between the gel coat and fibre weave after stone chipping damage and yes BMW did fix under warranty.
groucho said:
PHOENIXUK said:
Just wondered what is 'the red cog of death'?
Me too, sounds frightening.
I can hardly believe it but the bloody 'cog of death' came on as I was going home......
Transmission fault proceed to BMW...After stopping to get the lottery numbers on,(Might as well since I am now Mystic Meg)the car started up with no sign of 'THE COG'.....
My local BMW dealership were quite open about the problems that they have experienced with the E60 M5 as I was asking advice whilst contemplating buying one. They put me off completely when they confirmed that some (mainly early) cars suffered from oil stavation as a result of poor oil pipework design. I wouldn't touch one without a warranty and even then, most car magazines are pretty slathing of the SMG when compared against its more younger competition and therefore I question whether they are being a little too unfashionable (residuals).
I still love that name "Red Cog Of Death".
It's probably the worst thing you'll see on an M5's display.
Only ever saw it once in mine, but it was terminal & i had my 5 mins of fame as every radio station in the South East of England was providing traffic updates on the blocked A329 in Bracknell at 08:10 in the Monday rush hour by a Blue BMW (my M5). The cog appeared as i exited the M4 en-route to the M3 & the car just siezed in 1st gear in stop start traffic, bring this major trunk route to a standstill.
Could not engage neutral & the car had to be dragged by force with it's rear wheels locked up onto a low loader. After about 100, i lost count of the number of times i'd been called a c0ck by passing angry motorists.
Car needed a full SMG box replaced under warranty. Hence the term, "Red Cog Of Death".
Ps. BMW UK's Head Office was 2 miles from where i broke down, so i ordered the low loader to drop my car off there.
It's probably the worst thing you'll see on an M5's display.
Only ever saw it once in mine, but it was terminal & i had my 5 mins of fame as every radio station in the South East of England was providing traffic updates on the blocked A329 in Bracknell at 08:10 in the Monday rush hour by a Blue BMW (my M5). The cog appeared as i exited the M4 en-route to the M3 & the car just siezed in 1st gear in stop start traffic, bring this major trunk route to a standstill.
Could not engage neutral & the car had to be dragged by force with it's rear wheels locked up onto a low loader. After about 100, i lost count of the number of times i'd been called a c0ck by passing angry motorists.
Car needed a full SMG box replaced under warranty. Hence the term, "Red Cog Of Death".
Ps. BMW UK's Head Office was 2 miles from where i broke down, so i ordered the low loader to drop my car off there.
W8PMC said:
I still love that name "Red Cog Of Death".
It's probably the worst thing you'll see on an M5's display.
Only ever saw it once in mine, but it was terminal & i had my 5 mins of fame as every radio station in the South East of England was providing traffic updates on the blocked A329 in Bracknell at 08:10 in the Monday rush hour by a Blue BMW (my M5). The cog appeared as i exited the M4 en-route to the M3 & the car just siezed in 1st gear in stop start traffic, bring this major trunk route to a standstill.
Could not engage neutral & the car had to be dragged by force with it's rear wheels locked up onto a low loader. After about 100, i lost count of the number of times i'd been called a c0ck by passing angry motorists.
Car needed a full SMG box replaced under warranty. Hence the term, "Red Cog Of Death".
Ps. BMW UK's Head Office was 2 miles from where i broke down, so i ordered the low loader to drop my car off there.
Red Cog of Death - that'll do it.It's probably the worst thing you'll see on an M5's display.
Only ever saw it once in mine, but it was terminal & i had my 5 mins of fame as every radio station in the South East of England was providing traffic updates on the blocked A329 in Bracknell at 08:10 in the Monday rush hour by a Blue BMW (my M5). The cog appeared as i exited the M4 en-route to the M3 & the car just siezed in 1st gear in stop start traffic, bring this major trunk route to a standstill.
Could not engage neutral & the car had to be dragged by force with it's rear wheels locked up onto a low loader. After about 100, i lost count of the number of times i'd been called a c0ck by passing angry motorists.
Car needed a full SMG box replaced under warranty. Hence the term, "Red Cog Of Death".
Ps. BMW UK's Head Office was 2 miles from where i broke down, so i ordered the low loader to drop my car off there.
groucho said:
PHOENIXUK said:
I is glad on this occasion I purchased mine from the BMW man. Usually I buy privatly and VERY nearly bought one this time that was £3K cheaper from a 'specialist'.....
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