Early build 2 door E36M3
Early build 2 door E36M3
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528Sport

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1,464 posts

258 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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Why are they all being snapped up so quickly? Are they becomming desirable?
Looking at the classified section all the early 2 door ones seem to be sold.

Years ago they got slated for being poor

oh and I am thinking of getting one becasue the E30's seem to be stupidly priced and having owned one I don't think they are worth the money the command (my opinion)


bennyboysvuk

3,494 posts

272 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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I wonder if it's because summer is coming and they make a good track car once stripped out.

528Sport

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1,464 posts

258 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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bennyboysvuk said:
I wonder if it's because summer is coming and they make a good track car once stripped out.
possibly I didn't think they were any good on the track?

I know the 3.0l engine is better than the 3.2 in terms of reliability
maybe I should get one. Time to search the buyers guides me thinks

TheEnd

15,370 posts

212 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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they do suffer from rust, and there wasn't anything that set the early ones apart so i guess it's just due to them becoming good value in terms of rwd close to 300bhp cars.
there was a time when e30 m3s would change hands for 2500-3000, probably less if you were in the right circles.
it's quite possible the e36 m3 is now at it's lowest ebb, and prices will hold pretty steady until all the bad ones die off.

528Sport

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Wednesday 31st March 2010
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TheEnd said:
they do suffer from rust, and there wasn't anything that set the early ones apart so i guess it's just due to them becoming good value in terms of rwd close to 300bhp cars.
there was a time when e30 m3s would change hands for 2500-3000, probably less if you were in the right circles.
it's quite possible the e36 m3 is now at it's lowest ebb, and prices will hold pretty steady until all the bad ones die off.
I feel some money burning a hole in my pocket... the rust issue is my biggest worry as its hard to fix permanently.
I might go look at a few cheap ones and see if I can polish a poo. failing that build a track weapon



Great Pretender

26,140 posts

238 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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TheEnd said:
they do suffer from rust, and there wasn't anything that set the early ones apart so i guess it's just due to them becoming good value in terms of rwd close to 300bhp cars.
there was a time when e30 m3s would change hands for 2500-3000, probably less if you were in the right circles.
it's quite possible the e36 m3 is now at it's lowest ebb, and prices will hold pretty steady until all the bad ones die off.
Not so nono

Most of the early 3.2 cars came with aluminium doors which represent a significant weight saving over the steel doors fitted to later cars.

sniff diesel

13,124 posts

236 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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Great Pretender said:
TheEnd said:
they do suffer from rust, and there wasn't anything that set the early ones apart so i guess it's just due to them becoming good value in terms of rwd close to 300bhp cars.
there was a time when e30 m3s would change hands for 2500-3000, probably less if you were in the right circles.
it's quite possible the e36 m3 is now at it's lowest ebb, and prices will hold pretty steady until all the bad ones die off.
Not so nono

Most of the early 3.2 cars came with aluminium doors which represent a significant weight saving over the steel doors fitted to later cars.
What's ally doors got to do with the price of fish GP?

Great Pretender

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238 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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confused

TheEnd

15,370 posts

212 months

Wednesday 31st March 2010
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some m3 3.2's from '96 had the remainder of the ally doors, but 1996 is particularly "early" in the production run of e36 M3s.

528Sport

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258 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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I am not intrested in the 3.2 becasue of vanos reasons.
regarding doors thats fine but the rest of the bodywork (arches) suffer
regarding weight its east to shed a few pounds off a car when your armed with an angle grinder.

iguana

7,303 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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528Sport said:
possibly I didn't think they were any good on the track?
Ha ha you joking??


Pretty much the best budget track blaster there is- not much cop as standard tho granted, but don't need much to make them great & a tad more makes them fan blooming tastic.

Edited by iguana on Thursday 1st April 11:47

E36GUY

5,906 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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iguana said:
528Sport said:
possibly I didn't think they were any good on the track?
Ha ha you joking??


Pretty much the best budget track blaster there is- not much cop as standard tho granted, but don't need much to make them great & a tad more makes them fan blooming tastic.

Edited by iguana on Thursday 1st April 11:47
Quite right but they benefit from coilies and a decent set up. I've got close to 8mins30 in mine at the 'ring so that's whipping along nicely.

OP - don't be overly concerned at the Vanos issues. This a wildly over exaggerated issue that in reality has affected a comparatively small number of cars when you consider the numbers it was made in. The Evo is the better car overall.

iguana

7,303 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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E36GUY said:
iguana said:
528Sport said:
possibly I didn't think they were any good on the track?
Ha ha you joking??


Pretty much the best budget track blaster there is- not much cop as standard tho granted, but don't need much to make them great & a tad more makes them fan blooming tastic.

Edited by iguana on Thursday 1st April 11:47
Quite right but they benefit from coilies and a decent set up. I've got close to 8mins30 in mine at the 'ring so that's whipping along nicely.
In fairness tho 8.30 is 160bhp mk2 golf times wink quick guys in e36s get high 7s smile

Yeh fully trimmed just with decent pads & coilovers & decent geo my old blue M3 was good for 8.40s out the box.

P box not dodgy watch timing tho smile

You out 'ring track day on 19th? with tf 17/18th?


E36GUY

5,906 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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iguana said:
E36GUY said:
iguana said:
528Sport said:
possibly I didn't think they were any good on the track?
Ha ha you joking??


Pretty much the best budget track blaster there is- not much cop as standard tho granted, but don't need much to make them great & a tad more makes them fan blooming tastic.

Edited by iguana on Thursday 1st April 11:47
Quite right but they benefit from coilies and a decent set up. I've got close to 8mins30 in mine at the 'ring so that's whipping along nicely.
In fairness tho 8.30 is 160bhp mk2 golf times wink quick guys in e36s get high 7s smile

Yeh fully trimmed just with decent pads & coilovers & decent geo my old blue M3 was good for 8.40s out the box.

P box not dodgy watch timing tho smile

You out 'ring track day on 19th? with tf 17/18th?
Well that's good for them and this was my second visit and the first in properly dry condition and with terrible brakes so I intend to go faster but I am also aware of the requirement to get home again afterwards! lol!

Not there then. Am there this weekend for Easter.

Great Pretender

26,140 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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528Sport said:
I am not intrested in the 3.2 becasue of vanos reasons.
banghead

I humbly suggest you need to do more research before drawing any conclusions.

There is a very slim chance you could encounter a VANOS failure of some kind with the 3.2 (which in itself may not be that expensive to repair). Conversely, the 3.0 engine requires modification to avoid oil surge problems which are a real issue if you plan to build a puka track car. Furthermore, the 3.0 is noticeably slower than the 3.2 in standard form and again will require upgrading (ergo ££££) to match the performance of the later Evo.

In summary, you'd be better buying the 3.2. I've been down this road already and regretted buying the 3.0.



528Sport

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1,464 posts

258 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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I drove an e36 a few years ago and to be honest didn't rate it maybe it was a dog..
I always remeber the e36 being slated by the e30 owners (but then we would)

Maybe as there is more aftermarket kit nowadays things have changed and you can make a good track car out of one.
I am waiting for a reply to an email and fingers crossed I will be going to look at one this weekend. Intresting to read the vanos issue is over hyped, bit like the e30 timming chain issues.