Has anybody bought the OEM winter tyres for E92 M3
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Hi
Asked the local dealer for spec and price of winter tyres for E92 M3. Was quoted 18" 235/40 Michelin all round at £1700+VAT. He said the alloys were the 7 double spoke version (couldn't find on official site).
Was just wondering if anybody had actually bough these, which exact Michelin winter tyre variant it was, do they work, or has anyone actually sourced own rims and tyres?
Responses much appreciated.
Cheers
Cammy
Asked the local dealer for spec and price of winter tyres for E92 M3. Was quoted 18" 235/40 Michelin all round at £1700+VAT. He said the alloys were the 7 double spoke version (couldn't find on official site).
Was just wondering if anybody had actually bough these, which exact Michelin winter tyre variant it was, do they work, or has anyone actually sourced own rims and tyres?
Responses much appreciated.
Cheers
Cammy
Thought hard about it last winter - did some research and in the end didn't buy (started this thread....
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Then my M3 was useless this Wednesday so decided I had to buy some winter tyres.
Did a lot of research including the German website recommended in the above thread, checked ebay for 2nd hand wheels, looked hard at a few wheel specialists sites, etc.
But as I am not a technical expert found it very difficult to be certain that the wheels I would buy would be of decent quality and that they would fit (or the few sets of 2nd hand OEM wheels were expensive)
So took the plunge and ordered the OEM winter wheels and tyres today - they are £1,950 for the set of four. I should get them in a few weeks time.
Figured that if I drive them for a two or three winters, I'll be able to sell an OEM set quite easily when the car goes and recoup a good chunk of my outlay. Any other option I looked at was probably going to save me an absolute maximum of £500 over a few years and I just didn't think it was worth it - I'll have peace of mind with an OEM set.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Then my M3 was useless this Wednesday so decided I had to buy some winter tyres.
Did a lot of research including the German website recommended in the above thread, checked ebay for 2nd hand wheels, looked hard at a few wheel specialists sites, etc.
But as I am not a technical expert found it very difficult to be certain that the wheels I would buy would be of decent quality and that they would fit (or the few sets of 2nd hand OEM wheels were expensive)
So took the plunge and ordered the OEM winter wheels and tyres today - they are £1,950 for the set of four. I should get them in a few weeks time.
Figured that if I drive them for a two or three winters, I'll be able to sell an OEM set quite easily when the car goes and recoup a good chunk of my outlay. Any other option I looked at was probably going to save me an absolute maximum of £500 over a few years and I just didn't think it was worth it - I'll have peace of mind with an OEM set.
Hi there,
New M3 owner here, although have been on PH for a number of years in TVRs. Anyway, back on topic...
The wife and I are going to Austria over Xmas and we're driving in the M3. It is illegal not to be running winter tyres out there over the winter months. I looked at the BMW winter tyre package but it was just too expensive for me. I managed to source some original OEM BMW 18-inch M3 wheels, and then have ordered some Falken Ohtsu HS439's. 235/40/R18s on the front and 255/40/R18s on the back. (I've checked the Falken website and they are proper M+S winter tyres.) You can see them here if you like:
http://www.falken-europe.com/?pid=9&reifen=42
The wheels were £550 - being sold on here by a used car dealership (took them off an M3 they had sold as they replaced them with upgraded 19-inchers) and the tyres were £600 fitted.
So that's £1150 all-in. Which is not bad I think.
Only issue at the moment is we're still waiting for the tyres to come in from Europe, although hopefully they'll be here any day now.
Anyway, hope that provides some help. Even if only to show there are other options!
Oh, and if you do decide to go with the OEM winter tyres, my local dealership offered me a discount - around 8% off I seem to recall. Ended up around £1750 inc VAT.
Ropey
New M3 owner here, although have been on PH for a number of years in TVRs. Anyway, back on topic...
The wife and I are going to Austria over Xmas and we're driving in the M3. It is illegal not to be running winter tyres out there over the winter months. I looked at the BMW winter tyre package but it was just too expensive for me. I managed to source some original OEM BMW 18-inch M3 wheels, and then have ordered some Falken Ohtsu HS439's. 235/40/R18s on the front and 255/40/R18s on the back. (I've checked the Falken website and they are proper M+S winter tyres.) You can see them here if you like:
http://www.falken-europe.com/?pid=9&reifen=42
The wheels were £550 - being sold on here by a used car dealership (took them off an M3 they had sold as they replaced them with upgraded 19-inchers) and the tyres were £600 fitted.
So that's £1150 all-in. Which is not bad I think.
Only issue at the moment is we're still waiting for the tyres to come in from Europe, although hopefully they'll be here any day now.
Anyway, hope that provides some help. Even if only to show there are other options!
Oh, and if you do decide to go with the OEM winter tyres, my local dealership offered me a discount - around 8% off I seem to recall. Ended up around £1750 inc VAT.
Ropey
The OEM winters are 8" wide with 235 tyres all round. Better for traction on snow but obviously less rubber on the road in the dry.
ropey said:
some original OEM BMW 18-inch M3 wheels, and then have ordered some Falken Ohtsu HS439's. 235/40/R18s on the front and 255/40/R18s on the back. (I've checked the Falken website and they are proper M+S winter tyres.)
Just to clarify - the 18 inch wheels I've bought are the original OEM wheels that the E9* M3s come with, (before most people upgrade to the 19-inchers). They are usually painted grey rather than silver. I believe they are style 260M. They are NOT the ones that BMW sell as their winter tyre package.
They are not the same width for all 4 wheels - 8.5 on the front, 9.5 on the rear (I believe).
Originally I found a set up like this on eBay, wheels and tyres but umm-ed and aah-ed too long and missed out. Some people prefer 245/265 (front/rear) tyres, but they are harder to track down apparently.
Ropey
They are not the same width for all 4 wheels - 8.5 on the front, 9.5 on the rear (I believe).
Originally I found a set up like this on eBay, wheels and tyres but umm-ed and aah-ed too long and missed out. Some people prefer 245/265 (front/rear) tyres, but they are harder to track down apparently.
Ropey
ropey said:
Just to clarify - the 18 inch wheels I've bought are the original OEM wheels that the E9* M3s come with, (before most people upgrade to the 19-inchers). They are usually painted grey rather than silver. I believe they are style 260M. They are NOT the ones that BMW sell as their winter tyre package.
They are not the same width for all 4 wheels - 8.5 on the front, 9.5 on the rear (I believe).
Originally I found a set up like this on eBay, wheels and tyres but umm-ed and aah-ed too long and missed out. Some people prefer 245/265 (front/rear) tyres, but they are harder to track down apparently.
Ropey
I was just meaning that the OEM winters are 8" all round (I suspect to allow chains on the continent). They are not the same width for all 4 wheels - 8.5 on the front, 9.5 on the rear (I believe).
Originally I found a set up like this on eBay, wheels and tyres but umm-ed and aah-ed too long and missed out. Some people prefer 245/265 (front/rear) tyres, but they are harder to track down apparently.
Ropey
So the larger rears are better in my experience in the dry but the 8" have the advantage in snow - some of the best fun I had in the M3 was on these tyres in the snow.
I had std 18" E46 M3 wheels on my Z4MC (also bought on Ebay) with Pirelli Sottozero winters which had of course larger rears and they worked very well.
Edited by jbtco on Monday 6th December 19:36
Edited by jbtco on Monday 6th December 19:37
Cheers for the replies.
Think I am going to take the plunge after we were hit with 5" of snow today. Got the car to work Ok as it was clear, but ended up abandoning the car at work and getting driven home in a Honda CRV 4x4.
Although i could shop around as some of you have, will probably take the OEM plunge which will last for 4 odd winters, and can always sell the rims later.
Cheers
Cammy
Think I am going to take the plunge after we were hit with 5" of snow today. Got the car to work Ok as it was clear, but ended up abandoning the car at work and getting driven home in a Honda CRV 4x4.
Although i could shop around as some of you have, will probably take the OEM plunge which will last for 4 odd winters, and can always sell the rims later.
Cheers
Cammy
ropey said:
... Austria over Xmas ... It is illegal not to be running winter tyres out there over the winter months.
Not technically true. It is not illegal to not have winter tyres in Austria, however if you have an accident and you have not got WTs fitted, the insurance won't pay out, meaning you're effectively driving without insurance, which is illegal.Don't you love the way these things work!!
cammy71 said:
Cheers for the replies.
Think I am going to take the plunge after we were hit with 5" of snow today. Got the car to work Ok as it was clear, but ended up abandoning the car at work and getting driven home in a Honda CRV 4x4.
Although i could shop around as some of you have, will probably take the OEM plunge which will last for 4 odd winters, and can always sell the rims later.
Cheers
Cammy
Get a pair of Autosocks as a "get me home" solution. See the topic on here "Bloody Weather" from last week for proof. For £65 they are incredible. Not an alternative to winter tyres though as they are the way to go for a variety of other reasons - they should be compulsory IMHO in the UK. Think I am going to take the plunge after we were hit with 5" of snow today. Got the car to work Ok as it was clear, but ended up abandoning the car at work and getting driven home in a Honda CRV 4x4.
Although i could shop around as some of you have, will probably take the OEM plunge which will last for 4 odd winters, and can always sell the rims later.
Cheers
Cammy
ghibbett said:
ropey said:
... Austria over Xmas ... It is illegal not to be running winter tyres out there over the winter months.
Not technically true. It is not illegal to not have winter tyres in Austria, however if you have an accident and you have not got WTs fitted, the insurance won't pay out, meaning you're effectively driving without insurance, which is illegal.Don't you love the way these things work!!
And I've just heard today that my tyres have made it to the UK, so all being well, I'll be able to fit my wheels and tyres this weekend. Just as all the snow is disappearing. Typical! (We only had a few inches here in West London anyway.)
But I guess with a trip down to Cornwall to see the in-laws at Xmas and then the trip to Austria, they're still worth it.
Personally, I think if this weather keeps up every year, they should make winter tyres compulsory in the UK. The amount of footage we've seen recently with people skidding about on summer tyres... I'm sure some people would baulk at the expense, but if you can rotate them with your summer tyres, they'll both end up lasting twice as long.
Ropey
^^^ Agree.
I'm loving my winter tyres. They've got rid of the tramlining I had on my Summers, ride better and have brought back balance to the chassis.
And, having had mine on since 1st Nov in weather from +12C down to -9C (I live in Austria), in snow, slush, rain etc, I do believe they're a big improvement in general winter conditions and not just the snow.
I'm loving my winter tyres. They've got rid of the tramlining I had on my Summers, ride better and have brought back balance to the chassis.
And, having had mine on since 1st Nov in weather from +12C down to -9C (I live in Austria), in snow, slush, rain etc, I do believe they're a big improvement in general winter conditions and not just the snow.
Hi
I have bought the OEM wheels. They look like the ones posted in the pics above.
In the last 2 dumps of snow they have been great. This time last year I could not
get the M3 off my drive, the car was basically useless. In November I thought I
might as well just get them as the last 2 winters have been bad and this year looks like the same,
ok it is not cheap, but it is not as if they are just for snow. I intend to use them from November to March (ish) every ear.
So I bought 4x BMW 270M 18" wheels (same size for all four wheels).
I went for the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D (235/40 R18)
I opted to get the wheels as well so I could change them myself and store the summer ones at home.
I recomnend that anybody in two minds thinking about getting winter tyres to go for it.
I have bought the OEM wheels. They look like the ones posted in the pics above.
In the last 2 dumps of snow they have been great. This time last year I could not
get the M3 off my drive, the car was basically useless. In November I thought I
might as well just get them as the last 2 winters have been bad and this year looks like the same,
ok it is not cheap, but it is not as if they are just for snow. I intend to use them from November to March (ish) every ear.
So I bought 4x BMW 270M 18" wheels (same size for all four wheels).
I went for the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D (235/40 R18)
I opted to get the wheels as well so I could change them myself and store the summer ones at home.
I recomnend that anybody in two minds thinking about getting winter tyres to go for it.
Again, thanks for all the replies. I have in fact ordered the OEM rims with the Alpin PA3s shod on them. Did a bit of research and the PA3s appear to cover what we can expect in this country with not trying to get to ski slope territory. Having placed the order on 8 December, I have been told they hope to have them before Xmas, c15 working days delay. They obviously can't do maths as I think I'll be lucky to have before New Year! So, following more snow and ice with more expected I think the car will stuck on the drive until they arrive.
E46 M3 19 with oem tyres...it was fine off the drive, and on the road but the train drop off point has about a 20* incline or so...took me 30minutes to try and get out. I had to go the wrong direction and over a few pavements to get the car out then around the corner I couldn't make it up the incline. This was at 11-11:30 and the snow on the roads hadn't turned to slush yet. I had to just leave the car parked on the side. I managed to get it back 3hrs later when the roads had turned to slush.
Then later on in the evening I couldn't get the dam car back on my drive which has a small incline...I had to park it in a neighbours drive.
Would snow tyres make such a big difference on an incline where the car has stopped? This is the only condition where the car is just useless...
Brothers land rover and dads lexus 400 have no issues :P
Koing
Then later on in the evening I couldn't get the dam car back on my drive which has a small incline...I had to park it in a neighbours drive.
Would snow tyres make such a big difference on an incline where the car has stopped? This is the only condition where the car is just useless...
Brothers land rover and dads lexus 400 have no issues :P
Koing
Koing said:
Would snow tyres make such a big difference on an incline where the car has stopped? This is the only condition where the car is just useless...
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Video-Do-you-...
Koing said:
E46 M3 19 with oem tyres...it was fine off the drive, and on the road but the train drop off point has about a 20* incline or so...took me 30minutes to try and get out. I had to go the wrong direction and over a few pavements to get the car out then around the corner I couldn't make it up the incline. This was at 11-11:30 and the snow on the roads hadn't turned to slush yet. I had to just leave the car parked on the side. I managed to get it back 3hrs later when the roads had turned to slush.
Then later on in the evening I couldn't get the dam car back on my drive which has a small incline...I had to park it in a neighbours drive.
Would snow tyres make such a big difference on an incline where the car has stopped? This is the only condition where the car is just useless...
Brothers land rover and dads lexus 400 have no issues :P
Koing
Yep, mine was a nightmare last year couldn't get back up the hill into the village, this year I've been driving up and down it for fun.Then later on in the evening I couldn't get the dam car back on my drive which has a small incline...I had to park it in a neighbours drive.
Would snow tyres make such a big difference on an incline where the car has stopped? This is the only condition where the car is just useless...
Brothers land rover and dads lexus 400 have no issues :P
Koing
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