M5 killed by oh!
M5 killed by oh!
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Girlfriend has just driven the car into back of another car in traffic! Impact was about 25mph I'm guessing and other parties have already sorted their whiplash claims (not that they let their basic English skills put them off) car has bonnet, wing and bumper damage and is a 99 m5. I'm guessing it may be a total loss?

naefeart

147 posts

187 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Unlucky, but that should give you a raft of instant reserve brownie points.

How bad is the damage to the bonnet and panels, or I guess the real question is how much damage is their behind them?

anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Don't know how much panelwork garages do these days but I'm guessing they just fit new parts instead. Doesn't seem too bad but I've got a feeling with main dealer rates its going to be a no go. Then comes the valuation!

thegreatdogwood

299 posts

221 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Also remember that for most policies it is not a case of the works costing more than worth of car to determine write off. If the insurer reckons they can minimise their cost by making a payout to you and selling on to salvage rather than funding cost of repairs then that's what they will do, even though repairs may be a lot less than value of car.

benzito

1,060 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Sorry to hear that. Having been in a similar situation a couple of yrs ago with an M3 I would advise keeping options open yet and fully researching costs. I took mine to main dealer and got a detailed quote of parts and costs (came out to around 7800 pounds redface if I remember correctly), the damage wasn't horrific, it was just panels! engine etc were all fine, I think the air filter box broke so that also needed changing along with passenger wheel,

I sourced nearly all the parts myself and got an independent bodywork specialist to do the work for 1600 cash, parts cost around 2200 smile - so you can see the difference,

Its worth checking this, all depends on how much damage, it is drivable?, wheels turning? engine ok? any chassis split? door alignment?
also check current car prices, what insurance are offering, if anyone would buy the car for parts etc, etc, these things are always a hassle but what can you do, all i can say is good luck and keep us informed,

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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1974nc said:
Girlfriend has just driven the car into back of another car in traffic!
Girlfriend driving M5!!! nono

Really sorry to hear that. Can you not get the insurance to fit the other parties car and you fix yours? You might be able to source some parts cheaper than main dealer?

sinizter

3,348 posts

210 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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hesnotthemessiah said:
Girlfriend driving M5!!! nono

Really sorry to hear that. Can you not get the insurance to fit the other parties car and you fix yours? You might be able to source some parts cheaper than main dealer?
What's the point of that ? Claim is lodged and insurance is going to jump anyway. Now you're out of pocket twice.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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sinizter said:
What's the point of that ? Claim is lodged and insurance is going to jump anyway. Now you're out of pocket twice.
Sorry, I didn't realise that's what happened. I just thought perhaps it would be a way of cutting his costs whilst saving the car. frown

sinizter

3,348 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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hesnotthemessiah said:
Sorry, I didn't realise that's what happened. I just thought perhaps it would be a way of cutting his costs whilst saving the car. frown
He could still buy it off the insurance company after it was written off (if they will allow it) and repair it himself, using the insurance payout. But it will be marked Cat C/D.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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When car was collected yesterday by recovery garage (without a doubt the most charmless man i've ever spoken to) he assured me "no way thats going back on road mate".

Im assuming parts required will be 2 x wings (if not possible to be straightened as only tips are slightly damaged) 1 x Bonnet. 1 x Bumper.

Apart from labour and painting it doesnt need much.

Still starts and drives fine apart from airbag light now on also despite airbags not firing due to relative low speed.

Dont know if i want the car back or not really especially if it will be a cat d and therefore worth far less on sale?

Was just getting used to its quirks and qualities too.

Carlton Banks

3,674 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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1974nc said:
When car was collected yesterday by recovery garage (without a doubt the most charmless man i've ever spoken to) he assured me "no way thats going back on road mate".

Im assuming parts required will be 2 x wings (if not possible to be straightened as only tips are slightly damaged) 1 x Bonnet. 1 x Bumper.

Apart from labour and painting it doesnt need much.

Still starts and drives fine apart from airbag light now on also despite airbags not firing due to relative low speed.

Dont know if i want the car back or not really especially if it will be a cat d and therefore worth far less on sale?

Was just getting used to its quirks and qualities too.
if the car is repaired by the insurance company then it will not be recorded.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Just been to bookshop and bill is 4300! Plus vat! Made up of 2900 parts 680 labour and 580 paint and a few extras so on the face of it I'm stuffed. Also did a online valuation for car thru glasses and they reckon for the car with 68k full main dealer history its worth 2800 upwards! ! Please tell me this is a joke! I could have bought f-ING 3 for the price I paid... find me a genuine low miles for that and I will stand hanging!

Carlton Banks

3,674 posts

260 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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1974nc said:
Just been to bookshop and bill is 4300! Plus vat! Made up of 2900 parts 680 labour and 580 paint and a few extras so on the face of it I'm stuffed. Also did a online valuation for car thru glasses and they reckon for the car with 68k full main dealer history its worth 2800 upwards! ! Please tell me this is a joke! I could have bought f-ING 3 for the price I paid... find me a genuine low miles for that and I will stand hanging!
That book price is a load of tosh anyway.

Bottom end of the M5 market is £5k - £7k.

A good M5 will set you back £10+ IMO!

Just look on Pistonheads.


E30M3SE

8,486 posts

220 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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You will not find one at that GG valuation.

With labour at only £680 I do not think they will deem uneconomical to repair.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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I'm hoping not but it looks a bit dicey! Otherwise every m5 owner better beware in the event of an accident as you'll be replacing the car with an allegro upon payout time!

Cemesis

771 posts

186 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Sounds like it will be a write off. Should be possible to buy the car back and have it repaired though if you wanted.

Don't accept the insurance companies first offer though, compare the offer with autotrader and insist they pay more as its not enough to replace the car.

anonymous-user

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78 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Ok had a very open and honest conversation with insurance engineer about the car and after debate and a bit of arguing that you can't buy a good m5 for 5-6k he agreed to ok.the repair! Car will be sorted by BMW and done in 2 weeks! Result!

benzito

1,060 posts

183 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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well done! based on the repair figures that you were quoted it doesn't seem like there was much damage at all - sounds silly I know but the list price for any M power car part (be it even just a panel) is so much more than normal 3 and 5 series costs so 4kish for parts actually implies limited damage as does the relatively small labour cost.

It will affect premium of course and value of car but in general this is a very good result and based on what info you have given it should have always been the case that the M5 was repaired. Lesson to everyone including myself is to research fully whenever work/parts needed for cars to avoid being screwed over esp by main stealers and insurance companies,

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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I have protected no claims so hopefully won't alter premium too badly. Am led to believe that as the car is being properly repaired via an authorised dealer at insurance request it won't go down on the register?

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 5th February 05:12

benzito

1,060 posts

183 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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1974nc said:
I have protected no claims so hopefully won't alter premium too badly. Am led to believe that as the car is being properly repaired via an authorised dealer at insurance request it won't go down on the register?

Edited by 1974nc on Saturday 5th February 05:12
Another poster mentioned this aswell. I was not aware this is the case, but it seems if an insurance company are willing to repair then there is no 'salvage classification category' applicable. If they were not, then you get e.g. cat D when cost of repair is assessed at between 60% to 100& relative to value of car, if over 100% then I assume this would be cat C, etc

But then if a car has been repaired by insurance company, and you are looking to buy then how will you know 'officially' if there has been a previous accident, will it come up on the HPI checks etc???

PS I am definitely going to take out some no claims bonus protection this w/end, I have five yrs and I'm thinking it would be stupid not to, esp with performance cars just in case,