MGB...MX5
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B0LLIKS

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414 posts

199 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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anyone noticed that right up on top gear's web site, a company is remaking MGB's and using MX5 2ltr engines with 210 bhp. wonder if the company doing the work would be able to do anything with our engines.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Monday 27th June 2011
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Each car uses a new British Motor Heritage MGB shell, into which Frontline shoves a 2012 2-litre VVC MX-5 engine. It's got billeted con-rods and crankshaft, forged fully-skirted and Teflon-coated pistons and it's been hopped up with a 45mm direct injection throttle body and closed-loop Lamda set up.

Interesting.

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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well i phoned frontline (the company doing the MGB with the MX5 engine) and they said no bother to tune the engine in our 5s, give them a budget and they will work to that. the engine they tune for the MGB has 215 bhp and would cost around £2300. if you want a bit less bhp then one of the things they do is throw away the inlet system and fit ITBs and that gives about 190 bhp but has the intake sound that a twincam engine should have, that costs a bit less. cleverly i forgot the guys name i spoke to but he knew his business. he also said he would sell the parts needed to anyone who wants to do the work themselves, and anyone wanting to pop along and have a chat just give them a call on....01235832632. they are 2mins off the A34 just south of abingdon. oh the only drawback is they will only do the work on the MK3.5.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Wow that's really interesting, and a real alternative to the BBR supercharger.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Only on the 3.5... bugger!
I'd love a little more power from my car and having come close several times to buying a supercharger, I don't think it's for me (FI that is).
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much knowledge about tuning the 2.5 VVT engine. frown

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Hey Luke, what puts you off FI?

roddo

584 posts

224 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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my grey cossy going bang x4 and now back n/a

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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MX-5 Lazza said:
Hey Luke, what puts you off FI?
Bit more than I want to spend really and I think I'd only want a little more power, 160bhp or so.
I would like to go FI in the future, but it would be on a second car I think.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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LukeBird said:
...I think I'd only want a little more power, 160bhp or so...
You think that now laugh

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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MX-5 Lazza said:
LukeBird said:
...I think I'd only want a little more power, 160bhp or so...
You think that now laugh
I know!
When I was sussing out kits, I was suddenly only interested in a decent MP62 kit with an I/C and a standalone ECU.
Like I said, it does appeal, but I think I would only ever do it when the '5 wasn't my daily car. smile

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th June 2011
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Have you looked at the cold-side M45 kit? wink

Raffles

1,931 posts

259 months

Friday 1st July 2011
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B0LLIKS said:
well i phoned frontline (the company doing the MGB with the MX5 engine) and they said no bother to tune the engine in our 5s, give them a budget and they will work to that. the engine they tune for the MGB has 215 bhp and would cost around £2300. if you want a bit less bhp then one of the things they do is throw away the inlet system and fit ITBs and that gives about 190 bhp but has the intake sound that a twincam engine should have, that costs a bit less. cleverly i forgot the guys name i spoke to but he knew his business. he also said he would sell the parts needed to anyone who wants to do the work themselves, and anyone wanting to pop along and have a chat just give them a call on....01235832632. they are 2mins off the A34 just south of abingdon. oh the only drawback is they will only do the work on the MK3.5.
Now that is very interesting! Any word on warranty? I am tempted... Did they say how much they would charge to just change the inlet system like you describe? Cheers :-D

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

199 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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Raffles said:
Now that is very interesting! Any word on warranty? I am tempted... Did they say how much they would charge to just change the inlet system like you describe? Cheers :-D
hi they didnt say a price on just the inlet change, just that it was less as they dont change the cams. tbh he was saying so much as to what they can do that i was a bit lost. as to warranty i would think they would cover their work, but you can say good bye to mazdas, my first service is due this month so as soon as that is done i plan to have a trip up to them and have a better chat with them. i would realy say to give them a call though as you will not be dissapointed in what they can do, think of that MX5 race car shown a few weeks ago in the press.
Tom.

Raffles

1,931 posts

259 months

Saturday 2nd July 2011
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B0LLIKS said:
hi they didnt say a price on just the inlet change, just that it was less as they dont change the cams. tbh he was saying so much as to what they can do that i was a bit lost. as to warranty i would think they would cover their work, but you can say good bye to mazdas, my first service is due this month so as soon as that is done i plan to have a trip up to them and have a better chat with them. i would realy say to give them a call though as you will not be dissapointed in what they can do, think of that MX5 race car shown a few weeks ago in the press.
Tom.
Sounds good. Let us know how you get on.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Sunday 3rd July 2011
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MX-5 Lazza said:
Have you looked at the cold-side M45 kit? wink
I haven't, no! I'm fearful to even start looking...! wink

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd July 2011
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Nice lift in power without making it a rocket ship, pretty simple design so good reliability and much better than stock throttle response! It really does feel like a lovely car with a cold side sc, just like stock but better.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Go on then, who does the coldside '45 kit? rolleyeswink

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

248 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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I would usually suggest you give Performance 5 a call but Phil isn't easy to get hold of these days. Maybe Richy will see thus and chip in...

Richyvrlimited

1,885 posts

192 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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LukeBird said:
Go on then, who does the coldside '45 kit? rolleyeswink
No-one any more. It was originally made by BRP who also developed the first hotside MP62 kits. ISTR last time I spoke with Phil from P5 he actually had a coldside M45 manifold available. You'd need to source an M45 for it (the MINI supercharger is no good btw).

The BRP CS kit died as it didn't include the supercharger, it was merely the manifold, which made purchase rather cost prohibitive as you had to go out and buy a JRSC and bin all it's mounting brackets.

This is my dads



Wonderful car/bit of kit.

If you want a coldside now and new there's only 1 place you can get one from.

www.fastforwardsuperchargers.com

My CS MP62 (much MUCH slower than it used to be frown )

Before


After


Yes we're greedy :P

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Aaaah, I did wonder if it was a kit that was no longer available!
Nice cars! thumbup