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NiceCupOfTea

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25,538 posts

274 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Clutch started biting low today and by the time I got home it was creeping along with the clutch buried in the carpet frown

A quick look under the car and I could see something dripping from in front of the bulkhead towards the driver's side, so I am assuming the clutch flexi hose has let go (or master/slave cylinder). The reservoir still looks full - is that normal? I guess it only leaks when the clutch is being pressed - right?

Looks like a PITA to get to without a lift - somebody tell me this is an easy and cheap job please! Thinking of getting it recovered to my local Mazda dealer as it'll cost a lot to get it down to Mark in Chatham...

JFReturns

3,783 posts

194 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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When my slave cylinder went it emptied the reservoir. Apparently it is an easy fix though if you fancy a go....

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

187 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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half an hour max and yes its cheap couple of bolts easy!

NiceCupOfTea

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25,538 posts

274 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Half an hour? Is that for the flexi house?

Presumably I need it up on axle stands as you can't see anything under the bonnet...

Idiot's guide anywhere? What bits will I need?

muckymotor

2,426 posts

244 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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I think you can get to the slave cylinder by removing the front drivers side wheel and arch liner.

NiceCupOfTea

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25,538 posts

274 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Hmmm, just read a couple of threads on MX5OC. Actually looks a bh of a job. In theory simple; in practice, no access, arm at full reach, grazed knuckles, seized bolts, clutch fluid on drive, sheared unions...

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

187 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Its really easy
I have done 3 now when we buy a new to us mk1 I do it as a matter of course .

www.mx5oc.co.uk
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How to replace a clutch slave cylinder NA (MK1) & NB (MK2)
A leaking clutch release cylinder results in poor clutch pedal feel, poor gear selection & in the end being unable to select gears. Here’s how to fit a new release cylinder from MX-5 Parts to this 1991 MX-5 (the procedure is the same on NB). Access to the cylinder from underneath will be restricted by under covers on later cars – especially the NB F/L (Mk 2.5) Sport.
1: The clutch slave cylinder can be accessed through the right hand front wheel arch…
2: …and from under the vehicle.
3: By putting a hose clamp on the rubber clutch pipe that runs across the top of the bell housing you keep air out of the system which helps when you bleed the system later.
4: With the cylinder still mounted to the gearbox, undo the 10mm pipe union.
5: Next undo the two 12mm bolts that secure the clutch cylinder to the gearbox. Access the upper one through the wheel arch…
Any work you do to your car is entirely your own responsibility. If in doubt, you should check
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6: …and the lower one from underneath. You can see the clutch fluid leaking out of the removed dust boot in this photo. Remove the cylinder. Take care as this fluid will strip paint!
7: I put a blob of grease in the cylinder piston cup and on the end of the push rod to help reduce noise.
8: Then fit the dust boot and put another grease blob on the tip of the push rod where it contacts the clutch release arm.
9: Screw the pipe union in all the way before bolting the cylinder to the transmission, this helps the pipe seat correctly.
10: Next bolt the cylinder up (20Nm), ensuring the push rod is located in the clutch release fork and then tighten the pipe union (17Nm).
You can now undo the bleed nipple (pictured) about a third of a turn and slip a bleed pipe over it.
11: Remove as much of the old fluid as possible from the reservoir then refill with new fluid.
12: If you clamped the pipe you can remove the clamp and the system should gravity bleed itself. Otherwise bleed it manually by slowly pumping the clutch pedal similar to bleeding brakes. Finally tighten the bleed nipple, top up the reservoir & fit the cap.
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Any work you do to your car is entirely your own responsibility. If in doubt, you should check
technical advice with an independent, qualified person who has seen your car.
The MX-5 Owners Club, its officers and forum contributors accept no responsibility for any damage
caused to your person or property as a result of you following or not following the advice offered.

NiceCupOfTea

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25,538 posts

274 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Hmmmm, if I had time and another working car I might give it a go. As it is, I have one car in bits in a bodyshop with a slipping clutch, another on the drive dripping hydraulic fluid, another car that my wife is using, and a diary full of work!!

Just need to work out how to get it to the garage!

Thanks for posting the guide though - useful to read!

JFReturns

3,783 posts

194 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Where do you live? Mark @ Freelance does have a tow truck, and they have been very helpful to me in the past in terms of getting my car to the garage such as picking and dropping it off from my house (albeit working).

NiceCupOfTea

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Tuesday 13th September 2011
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JFReturns said:
Where do you live? Mark @ Freelance does have a tow truck, and they have been very helpful to me in the past in terms of getting my car to the garage such as picking and dropping it off from my house (albeit working).
Interesting, I spoke to Freelance earlier today who are going to squeeze it in later in the week. Hoping to use my RAC At Home membership to get it down there, but if that doesn't work might ask Mark, didn't realise he had a tow truck! One of those occasions where you wish you had a Disco + twin axle trailer parked out back wink

Slyjoe

1,578 posts

234 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Spooky - same happened to my clutch today, however, I also have a leaky rear brake cylinder as of a day ago too. I assume the hydraulics are off the same system and the two problems could be connected?


Edited by Slyjoe on Tuesday 13th September 21:18

NiceCupOfTea

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25,538 posts

274 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Don't think so - there are 2 reservoirs, the small one is the clutch, the big one the brake.

Slyjoe

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234 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Don't think so - there are 2 reservoirs, the small one is the clutch, the big one the brake.
Just topped that one up - it was empty - so the clutch is back, but it must be leaking somewhere.


NiceCupOfTea

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274 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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RAC guy diagnosed as the flexi pipe that runs across the bellhousing at the bulkhead, you can see it oozing when you pump the clutch. Both unions look easy enough to get to but I have no time.

Been recovered to the local main dealers who have already made noises about parts being difficult to get because "it's an import" - yes, I'm sure the RHD UK cars use completely different hydraulic flexi pipes to RHD JDM cars rolleyes

Preparing my wallet for a full on raping as I speak.

Kicking myself for not giving it a go myself, it was just the bleeding that was worrying me.

Edit:

To add insult to injury:

http://www.autolinkmx5.com/clutch-hose-flexible-mx...

£8 and some hydraulic fluid to top up weeping

ETA: Anybody live near Orpington and fancy giving me a hand changing it at the side of the road?! They are ringing me with a quote later. Place your bets now. I reckon they will charge minimum 1 hour at £100ph or so, plus parts. I think no change from £150.

Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Thursday 15th September 12:59

Greg_D

6,542 posts

269 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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try your local mx5OC area, ours are forever helping each other out, if you offer beer tokens, the help is VERY easy to come by. Don't let the dealers fleece you

snotrag

15,507 posts

234 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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As above, you might find someone on nutz to give you a hand.

Bleeding the clutch is easier than doing brakes though. I managed it on my own using a brick on the clutch pedal