How much would it cost to build a V8 Mk1?
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Probably... I know they go into 200sx's quite often...
eta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6I3xJuY9i8
eta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6I3xJuY9i8
Mr MXT said:
Probably... I know they go into 200sx's quite often...
eta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6I3xJuY9i8
Sounds frickin awesome eh.eta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6I3xJuY9i8
However...
Comments said:
It took two years working about 2 eight hours shifts a week, give or take. Knowing how to do it, the next one was built a lot faster. There are two out there, running this solid, all street legal, all emissions legal. The only British Racing Green Hardtop Lexus V8 in the world. Done here first.
Ah'm oot!http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1...
This one took 3 years.
The LSx isn't exactly a good choice in this country, not many car come with it fitted.
This one took 3 years.
The LSx isn't exactly a good choice in this country, not many car come with it fitted.
hornetrider said:
That's all new kit though right? I'm thinking more along the lines of picking up a lightly used LS, and dropping it in with ancillaries etc.
As pointed out above, "lightly used" LS motors aren't common here, and importing a s/h lump would cost 75% of a new crate motor (according ot the article in PPC mag).Unfortunately the "ancilliaries" you mention in passing amount to most of the cost:
gearbox, clutch, diff, driveshafts, hubs, subframes & chassis braces, fuel system, exhaust system and a custom sump seems to be essential as well.
IMHO if you want LS power you would be better off building an Ultima or GD T70, something that is designed to take 400+ bhp from the off.
If you go to http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid... one of the guys on there is giving away a Rover V8 and box for the cost of collection from the NE.
Can't get any cheaper than that.
Cheers, Pewe
Can't get any cheaper than that.
Cheers, Pewe
There are two people in the MX5 club I am in that have built one using Flyin Miata parts and I know a 3rd person that has just started his.
We are lucky here in Aus that the US$ - AU$ exchange rate is very favourable so the cost of all the parts to do it are very bloody reasonable. We also have a ready supply of LS engines and suitable manual gearboxes as well as plenty of off the shelf power mods for the engine.
Having looked around these cars and chatting to the owners / builders it is a pretty simple conversion (as far as engine swaps go) to do if you buy all the FM stuff and have everything ready to fit. It could be in and running in a few days of full time work with a couple of mates.
Note that even with a kit in a box there is still going to be more stuff to buy. Obviously you need to sort out brakes, suspension, wheels, tyres and then there will be some tools you need and wiring and cooling parts and a bit of welding to be done and then while the engine is not in the car you would do all the belts and seals and put a brand new clutch on it etc etc etc!!! And then when it is running there will be more to tweak and fix up!
Again with our good exchange rates it makes a hell of a lot of sense to do it if you want a big power MX5, you wont get a reliable 450BHP at that price going down the turbo 4 cylinder route.
Downsides to doing it? Getting the power on to the road and slowing it down again. All of the above are track junkies and the mid-build car is actually being done to my old turbo race car and will be in full competition next season. The completed cars are running 15 X 10in rims with semi slicks and they will still arc up in 4th gear on hot tyres. Both owners went with Wilwood brake kits which to be honest are complete shat for circuit use...in fact the first car to be built here was destroyed on track a few weeks back when they finally cried enough trying to bring the car down from 140MPH - 60MPH...So you WILL need to factor in a decent and custom brake set up. My old race car has Skyline GTR discs with Impreza STI calipers.
As for fitting a 1UZFE or Rover V8. I dont know why you would bother to be honest. Neither are particularly powerful as standard and with no manufactured kit you have to fabricate everything yourself. If you are after power then a turbo kit will see you with more rear wheel horespower in a shorter time.
We are lucky here in Aus that the US$ - AU$ exchange rate is very favourable so the cost of all the parts to do it are very bloody reasonable. We also have a ready supply of LS engines and suitable manual gearboxes as well as plenty of off the shelf power mods for the engine.
Having looked around these cars and chatting to the owners / builders it is a pretty simple conversion (as far as engine swaps go) to do if you buy all the FM stuff and have everything ready to fit. It could be in and running in a few days of full time work with a couple of mates.
Note that even with a kit in a box there is still going to be more stuff to buy. Obviously you need to sort out brakes, suspension, wheels, tyres and then there will be some tools you need and wiring and cooling parts and a bit of welding to be done and then while the engine is not in the car you would do all the belts and seals and put a brand new clutch on it etc etc etc!!! And then when it is running there will be more to tweak and fix up!
Again with our good exchange rates it makes a hell of a lot of sense to do it if you want a big power MX5, you wont get a reliable 450BHP at that price going down the turbo 4 cylinder route.
Downsides to doing it? Getting the power on to the road and slowing it down again. All of the above are track junkies and the mid-build car is actually being done to my old turbo race car and will be in full competition next season. The completed cars are running 15 X 10in rims with semi slicks and they will still arc up in 4th gear on hot tyres. Both owners went with Wilwood brake kits which to be honest are complete shat for circuit use...in fact the first car to be built here was destroyed on track a few weeks back when they finally cried enough trying to bring the car down from 140MPH - 60MPH...So you WILL need to factor in a decent and custom brake set up. My old race car has Skyline GTR discs with Impreza STI calipers.
As for fitting a 1UZFE or Rover V8. I dont know why you would bother to be honest. Neither are particularly powerful as standard and with no manufactured kit you have to fabricate everything yourself. If you are after power then a turbo kit will see you with more rear wheel horespower in a shorter time.
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