Looking at MK2.5 Sport-any better than other special eds?

Looking at MK2.5 Sport-any better than other special eds?

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tomwoodis

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570 posts

197 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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As per post really.

I've had a MK1 1.8 previously and loved it to bits but this one will be for the girlfriend so it needs to be a bit newer. Currently looking at MK2.5 Sport models primarily because I fancy one with the 6-speed box.

Am i right in thinking this was the only model to get this gearbox?

Also, the predominant question I need help with is it worth it? People in the know, are they really any better than some of the other special editions?

I can see that the sport comes with heated seats, 6 speed box and LSD all of which appeal but I understand some of the other special editions come close to this spec such as the Euphonic. Is the sport any different or will I not really notice the difference?

Cheers in advance,

Tom

gd49

302 posts

184 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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Sport has different suspension to the other editions - some prefer it, others think it's too hard for British roads. I'd drive both types then decide.

Think the 10th Anniversary Edition got the 6 speed box as well, not sure about any other special editions.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

232 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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The Mk1 Bilsteins are considered by most as too stiff for UK roads. The Mk2.5 Bilsteins are completely different. They are stiffer than standard Mk2.5 shocks but not really "stiff". I found the shocks on mine to be softer than on my old Mk1 1.8 Berkeley.
Also, the Bilstein shocks were an option on the Mk2.5 Sport so not all of them had them.

There were a few Mk2.5 specials that had the 6-speed as well as the Sport (the sport isn't a special, it's just the top spec standard model, equivalent to the Mk1/2 1.8iS).
I think the 10AE was the only UK Mk2 special with the 6-speed but there were quite a few JDM 6-speed Mk2s.

Aizle

12,429 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Euphonics are a great special edition. Not on Bilsteins so a bit softer on our roads, 5 speed box instead of 6 so slightly quieter when cruising.

In line with that, YHM wink

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Aizle said:
Euphonics are a great special edition. Not on Bilsteins so a bit softer on our roads, 5 speed box instead of 6 so slightly quieter when cruising.

In line with that, YHM wink
5 speed will be noisier when cruising as the 6-speed is higher geared wink

Whether the Mk2.5 Bilsteins feel better or worse to you is a matter of taste. I had to get rid of mine as I found them too soft compared to my old '98 Mk1 1.8.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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MX-5 Lazza said:
Whether the Mk2.5 Bilsteins feel better or worse to you is a matter of taste.
yes Absolutely! You just need to try them really.
Personally I didn't find them too bad, but I prefer the spring rates of my GGPs (with the softest springs).

tomwoodis

Original Poster:

570 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Thanks all, some very useful information, keep it coming smile

tomwoodis

Original Poster:

570 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Aizle said:
Euphonics are a great special edition. Not on Bilsteins so a bit softer on our roads, 5 speed box instead of 6 so slightly quieter when cruising.

In line with that, YHM wink
Thanks for the email, I have responded smile

Aizle

12,429 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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Likewise.

D_G

1,855 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2012
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I've recently bought a 2.5 SVT and it's brilliant. Don't worry about the suspension, it's nicely stiff but still compliant.
Before I bought mine I did some research and it seems you only get the full options on the Sport, so if you aren't bothered about the different coloured seats or wheel options I'd have the sport everytime. Also some of the specials are 5-speed and some have no LSD.

buccal

538 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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There looks to be some very keenly priced cars in the classifieds, especially in comparison with some much older cars.

What are the chances of getting a half decent sport for 3/3.5k? High miles isn,t a problem.

I would assume rust is the big issue as with Mark I and 2's?

vescaegg

27,628 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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D_G said:
I've recently bought a 2.5 SVT and it's brilliant. Don't worry about the suspension, it's nicely stiff but still compliant.
Before I bought mine I did some research and it seems you only get the full options on the Sport, so if you aren't bothered about the different coloured seats or wheel options I'd have the sport everytime. Also some of the specials are 5-speed and some have no LSD.
Got any more info please? Im potentially buying an SVT on Saturday!

D_G

1,855 posts

222 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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vescaegg said:
Got any more info please? Im potentially buying an SVT on Saturday!
They are pretty much mechanically bulletproof, the clutches can judder but that's more of an annoyance than in need of immediate replacement. Most serious is rust, the sill have drains which block up causing premature corrosion, make sure you check around the sills and rear arches and generally everywhere!
The 03 onwards models are fitted with the Super Fuji rear diff, there seems to be some scare stories of failures on the net but as far as I can see you won't have an issue on a road car driven normally. The rear diff needs servicing at 54k miles BTW. Earlier cars are fitted with a Torsen unit with is the best.
As with any car, condition, service history, accident damage etc need close inspection, also check the hood as once they start cracking it won't last long.

Hope the one on Saturday is a minter thumbup



tomwoodis

Original Poster:

570 posts

197 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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D_G said:
vescaegg said:
Got any more info please? Im potentially buying an SVT on Saturday!
They are pretty much mechanically bulletproof, the clutches can judder but that's more of an annoyance than in need of immediate replacement. Most serious is rust, the sill have drains which block up causing premature corrosion, make sure you check around the sills and rear arches and generally everywhere!
The 03 onwards models are fitted with the Super Fuji rear diff, there seems to be some scare stories of failures on the net but as far as I can see you won't have an issue on a road car driven normally. The rear diff needs servicing at 54k miles BTW. Earlier cars are fitted with a Torsen unit with is the best.
As with any car, condition, service history, accident damage etc need close inspection, also check the hood as once they start cracking it won't last long.

Hope the one on Saturday is a minter thumbup
Interesting point about the diff. Does it need servicing at 54k irrespective of whether its the Torsen unit or the Fuji?

Whats the cost of doing so?

D_G

1,855 posts

222 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Not sure about the torsen unit, I suspect it is the same. The servicing only is an oil change but it needs proper GL-5 LSD oil, it's not an expensive job. I've just done mine (earlier than scheduled) and the oil was definately in need of replacement, the gearbox oil is also due replacement at the same time. I've just checked my book and the official mileage is every 48k miles not 54k.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

232 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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As far as I know all dif's, open as well as LSD should have an oil change at regular intervals. I don't think there's anything special about any MX5 dif' with regards to service/maintenance.

tomwoodis

Original Poster:

570 posts

197 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Fair do's thanks for the update smile

vescaegg

27,628 posts

180 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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D_G said:
They are pretty much mechanically bulletproof, the clutches can judder but that's more of an annoyance than in need of immediate replacement. Most serious is rust, the sill have drains which block up causing premature corrosion, make sure you check around the sills and rear arches and generally everywhere!
The 03 onwards models are fitted with the Super Fuji rear diff, there seems to be some scare stories of failures on the net but as far as I can see you won't have an issue on a road car driven normally. The rear diff needs servicing at 54k miles BTW. Earlier cars are fitted with a Torsen unit with is the best.
As with any car, condition, service history, accident damage etc need close inspection, also check the hood as once they start cracking it won't last long.

Hope the one on Saturday is a minter thumbup
Picked up my SVT yesterday! It certainly was a minter! biggrin I've never had so much fun in a car. I'll get some pics up soon smile

frazbomb

37 posts

165 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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D_G said:
Not sure about the torsen unit, I suspect it is the same. The servicing only is an oil change but it needs proper GL-5 LSD oil, it's not an expensive job. I've just done mine (earlier than scheduled) and the oil was definately in need of replacement, the gearbox oil is also due replacement at the same time. I've just checked my book and the official mileage is every 48k miles not 54k.
You should NOT be putting LSD oil into the diff on any MX5. LSD oil is for use in proper LSD's not geared torsen units.

Any decent quality 80w90 or 75w90 for the Fuji units is what is needed.

GC8

19,910 posts

203 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Not even in a Tochigi Fuji Super diff?