Track Day - Beginners
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BeirutTaxi

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6,634 posts

237 months

Sunday 26th May 2013
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Hey guys,

I'm a novice with no experience of track driving and would like to do a track day. I'm on the South Coast - Which one is best to go for? I'm not so keen on doing one with crazy fast machinery surrounding me, given I have no experience.

Also, are there any issues with wheel bolts /studs becoming stressed with track use?

Many thanks,

Matt

HorneyMX5

5,598 posts

173 months

Sunday 26th May 2013
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Pr0w6SXYM

That was Friday.

Wheel bolts etc will be fine. Just make sure your brakes, tyres and suspension are in good order. Give the car a good service before, go out and have fun. The faster stuff will just whizz past you and let you on your way.

Nick

Edit to add: I've done a few trackdays over the years but that was my wife's first. She was bricking it but by her 2nd session was well in the groove and anticipating the quick cars and pulling over to let them through.

Edited by HorneyMX5 on Sunday 26th May 18:00

HorneyMX5

5,598 posts

173 months

Sunday 26th May 2013
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Have another vid from friday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRC8sfb80eI

I was a bit on it in this one as it was late afternoon and I'd settled into more of a groove.

nick

HaylingJag

2,122 posts

171 months

Sunday 26th May 2013
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVa_BScIS6g

Hi Matt,
check out Abingdon if you want to get to know your car on track. Plenty of run off if it goes wrong with minimal risk of damage. They also set the chicanes out in mini cones rather than tyre walls. My Mrs found Castle Combe a bit intimidating with the tyre walls and gravel traps!
I found CC a bit "long" for the MX, unless you got forced induction on yours? again Abingdon is set out nice and twisty which suits the car. Im off to Bedford on July 1st if you want the details for that???
As for you wheels fslling off, dont worry, youve got to be really unlucky if that ever happened. You say my car on the M27 last month, all i got on that is K&N, de-cat, Koni's and braces, more than enough to haave fun. Go do itbiggrin

Darren

sbridgey

110 posts

160 months

Sunday 26th May 2013
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If you are a beginner I can highly recommend this day, yes its a cliosport event but there are always loads of other marques there.

The day has free unlimited tuition and the track is really forgiving, I cannot recommend it highly enough.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?6848...

You will need to create an account to view, but it is worth it.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Sunday 26th May 2013
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As above. Give it a good service first, oil & filter change, make sure the cooling system is working well, change the coolant if you don't know when it was last changed. Same goes for the brake fluid, change if you don't know how old it is. Make sure brake pads have at least 50% material left and that the tyres have enough tread left to last the day. Other than that, just make sure everything is in good working order.
Most of all, just enjoy it!

Charybdis

73 posts

307 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Don't try to go as fast as possible at the beginning. Learn the right way round first. Search the breaking points, the apexes and slowly enhance pace as you get more confidence in your car and in the track. Watch the more experienced drivers and learn. Sometimes I ask for a ride as a passenger to learn the fast way round.

Watch the temperatures of your machinery throuout the day.

As soon as the tyres get too hot, the grip may drop quite suddenly. Bear in mind that this may happen to front/outer/back wheels only. As a result the cars handling behavior may change in an unexpected way. This may be something you are not used from street driving. Be prepared and approach both yours and the cars limits step by step.

After a session drive your car slowly to help it cool down. And don't apply the handbrake while parking. The heat from the disks heats up the brakefluid.

Have fun!




Edited by Charybdis on Tuesday 28th May 13:00

BeirutTaxi

Original Poster:

6,634 posts

237 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Dear all,

Thank you for taking the time to reply, it is much appreciated smile

I'm having a think about it, The car needs a few things sorting but will see how much cash I have left for a trackday once everything is in perfect working order smile

Kind regards,

Matt

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Talk to me about it at the next Bracknell meet wink

911p

2,351 posts

203 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Do check your wheel nuts between sessions, and make sure they're torqued up properly.

I had a bit of a scare when I checked mine half way through the day on my first trackday, one more session and there would have been a couple of wheels flying around Snetterton paperbag

Bomberharris

343 posts

168 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Where are you based on coast? 21st june, im going to abingdon im leaving from stoke poges but a friend coming up from southampton in a 4x4. So in short you can always get you vehicle trailered back home :-)

sbridgey

110 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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911p said:
Do check your wheel nuts between sessions, and make sure they're torqued up properly.

I had a bit of a scare when I checked mine half way through the day on my first trackday, one more session and there would have been a couple of wheels flying around Snetterton paperbag
i had mine come loose half way during a session, luckily it had happened before so i knew what was up and came straight into the pits and fixed it.

911p

2,351 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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IMO they should make people more aware of the importance of checking wheel nuts in the briefing.

sbridgey

110 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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911p said:
IMO they should make people more aware of the importance of checking wheel nuts in the briefing.
i agree. I never go on track without checking anymore.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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To be honest, I might check after the first heat up/cool down cycle but I'd consider checking after every session overkill. No harm in it but slightly OTT.

Bomberharris

343 posts

168 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Lazza,

Who do you know who can check my car over before i take toma track day and bring back ie to see if damaged or part fatigue? Also to fit brace bars and maybe lower ?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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sbridgey said:
911p said:
Do check your wheel nuts between sessions, and make sure they're torqued up properly.

I had a bit of a scare when I checked mine half way through the day on my first trackday, one more session and there would have been a couple of wheels flying around Snetterton paperbag
i had mine come loose half way during a session, luckily it had happened before so i knew what was up and came straight into the pits and fixed it.
How does this happen? I run different wheels and tyres, so swap them in the paddock upon arrival. Of course I set the correct torque at this point. Touch wood not had a problem on any of my days. Are you guys saying that you have problems with nuts coming loose? If so, were they ones which you'd torqued that morning at the track, or are you driving on your road wheels so your nuts haven't been checked since the tyres were last fitted?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I've only had it once myself and that was all 4 nuts on one wheel so my guess is that I hadn't "torqued" that wheel up correctly the morning before when I'd swapped to my track wheels.
Personally I never trust tyre fitters. After having tyres fitted I always reset the pressures (it's always way too high, usually 35psi or more) and I always loosen and re-tighten the wheel nuts as they are usually much too tight.
Nobody is perfect though.

p.s. I put "torqued" in quotes like that because I never use a torque wrench on wheel nuts. After over 25 years of working on cars & bikes I have a fair feeling for tightness of things like that.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Bomberharris said:
Lazza,

Who do you know who can check my car over before i take toma track day and bring back ie to see if damaged or part fatigue? Also to fit brace bars and maybe lower ?
In your area I'd say Wheels in Motion. They will happily give it a check over and can fit whatever suspension you like (they can even supply & fit some makes). I'm sure fitting a brace would be no problem for them if you have the parts. Get the alignment done at the same time wink

mrmr96

13,736 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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MX-5 Lazza said:
I've only had it once myself and that was all 4 nuts on one wheel so my guess is that I hadn't "torqued" that wheel up correctly
MX-5 Lazza said:
I put "torqued" in quotes like that because I never use a torque wrench on wheel nuts. After over 25 years of working on cars & bikes I have a fair feeling for tightness of things like that.
Lol, 10/10 for honesty, but if your nuts are coming loose it might be time to invest in a torque wrench? Your call of course.