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NiceCupOfTea

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273 months

Sunday 31st August 2008
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Had a bit of trouble a few months ago when the negative strap broke on the battery thanks to the halfwit previous owner replacing with a Bosch wet battery, the clamps didn't fit.

AA bloke clamped it up and advised changing for one the proper size.

Have been waiting until we have a garage so I can leave the old one on charge so as not to waste it.

Anyway, not driven it for a few weeks and was poking around it today - have swept a lot of dusty stuff out of the boot in the past (presumably the acid not being able to vent from the wet battery).

However, there's loads and loads of it, and there's a lot of rust yikes Have had a quick poke and the metal seems solid, so a WestCo battery is on order from MX5parts and I'll get started with a wirebrush and some hammerite tomorrow rolleyes

So, if you don't have the little venting thing connected up in your boot or if you have a wet battery, get it sorted before it turns into this:



yikes

(somebody on the mx5scotland site)

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

290 months

Sunday 31st August 2008
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1st thing i did mate , got shot of the halfords battery and replaced with a westco and vented it .

NiceCupOfTea

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Monday 1st September 2008
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Well, not as bad as above thank goodness!



Just surface rust, but a lot of powdery residue from battery emissions...



After attacking with a wire brush:



And hoovered & wiped down with a damp cloth...



A liberal coating of Kurust:



Then a coat of Hammerite Anti-rust:



Just waiting for it to dry before another coat!

DennisTheMenace

15,605 posts

290 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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Phew lucky then ! i would remove that felt noise panel on the wing and clean up behind it , i need to underseal my car , had a good looksee when i pulled the cat off and it needs a paint here and there .

NiceCupOfTea

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Monday 1st September 2008
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Do you reckon? It looks fine around the edge of it so I can't see it having got nasty at the back. Rust only seems to be just under where the battery was sitting.

Just finished the second coat in the dark! Brackets and spare wheel have been painted in the kitchen wink

DennisTheMenace

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290 months

Monday 1st September 2008
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i pulled mine out because the boot tends to sweat in winter (exhaust underneath heats it up ) so i pilled out all the deadening angave the boot a coat of polish and wax nerd its nice and shiney now hehe

NiceCupOfTea

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Monday 1st September 2008
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Hehe! I'll see how I feel tomorrow, there's already a dent there because of the oversize battery shifting around!

NiceCupOfTea

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Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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New Westco battery turned up from MX5parts this morning - it has two nipples presumably for venting, but didn't come with any piping.

a) should it have?
b) how should I connect it up?

I have some silicone hosing that I could connect up to one nipple which presumably goes to the plastic nipple near the light cluster, but the other battery connection will be unconnected. Will that still leak fumes into the boot? confused

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

241 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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The battery doesn't come with vent-tubes, they should be on the car. I guess someone lost yours when they replaced the original battery with the lead/acid jobbie.
You should be 2 vents on the battery, one on each side. Connect these together using a t-piece and vent using the nipple near the rear lights. You should be able to get a t-piece and tubing from halfrauds - the stuff made for the washer jets should be fine.
Leaving it venting to the boot probably isn't a problem though as the Westco battery is sealed - that's why they can send it by post. However, I'd do it anyway just for peace of mind.

NiceCupOfTea

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Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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Thanks will do.

Of course, I am hamstrung by the weather... I want to turn the car round so I can work in the shelter of the half-garage we have (don't ask!). Hammerite still tacky so can't put battery back in place. Won't start using jump leads to extend the cables. Can't jumpstart it off one of the other cars as I am using the jumpleads already! banghead

Cup of tea, then go out with Mrs.NCoT's hairdryer to finish the hammerite off...

miniman

29,229 posts

284 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Of course, I am hamstrung by the weather... I want to turn the car round so I can work in the shelter of the half-garage we have (don't ask!). Hammerite still tacky so can't put battery back in place. Won't start using jump leads to extend the cables. Can't jumpstart it off one of the other cars as I am using the jumpleads already! banghead
Ahh, just push it!

NiceCupOfTea

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Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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My drive is on a hill!

Just did a 3rd coat of primer. Looks like I slopped on the hammerite too thick with the brush rolleyes it's going to be a pretty crap finish, ah well, at least my first attempt at spray painting was inside the boot under the carpet hehe

Hopefully will get is sanded back and a couple of coats of Saab black tomorrow (only aerosol of black I have wink )

DennisTheMenace

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Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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for tyhe breathers get somw clear screen wash piping from halfords and a T piece , thats all you need smile

NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Excellent.

BTW, how do those battery clamps fit? Again, I don't have one but wondering if it's worth getting one to stop the damn thing moving. Also, what is the orientation of the original battery?

NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Damn it.

Just found a pic of how the battery should be mounted:



So I am missing:

Battery tray £8.45
Battery clamp £11.66
Battery retaining hook bolt £1.62
Flange nut £0.58

So that works out at £24 inc. delivery. And it still doesn't have the venting stuff...

DennisTheMenace

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290 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Try MX-5 heaven www.mx5heaven.co.uk should be cheaper , you will also need something to wedge in the battery tray as the westco is a little bit smaller

NiceCupOfTea

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Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Cheers, good website but I have already ordered it.

Bit cheesed off about the spraying, wind got under the newspaper and tipped the brackets over so they are covered in newspaper now. Not sure why I bothered... banghead

Have MOT booked for tomorrow so hoping paint has hardened enough by then to put the battery on top.

I have a feeling it won't have and I will be back to square one. TBH I wish I hadn't bothered now and had just sprayed some hammerite over it...

Munter

31,330 posts

263 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Ah so thats what the plastic tray thing is for... Now where did I put it.... scratchchin

NiceCupOfTea

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Thursday 4th September 2008
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Impressive - ordered last night after 4pm and turned up this am at 8.30am!

All fitted no problem but of course the paint hadn't hardened enough so the battery tray has chewed it up a bit rolleyes

Anyway, new battery works fine, just as well as I had an MOT booked!

Heater hose had other ideas though and I overheated on the way down rolleyes

Still, at least I know why it was overheating now...

NiceCupOfTea

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Thursday 4th September 2008
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OK, for anybody still awake wink here are some more photos:

Masked off:



A couple of coats of primer:



A couple of coats of Saab black wink :



Masking removed: (note brown bit near deeper bit of boot that I forgot about rolleyes )



Battery fitted: (note chewed up paint in a couple of places and bolt missing from one of the brackets - the hole it screws into seems to be blocked)



Anyway, it's all done and under carpet now.

Lessons learned:

  • when brushing on paint, *thin* coats
  • when spraying paint, *thin* coats
  • leave it as long as you possibly can for it to harden, and don't book an MOT for 18 hours after you sprayed the last coat rolleyeslaugh