a good price for an 1800 Torsen conversion
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Everything mx5 are selling on ebay:
reconditioned torsen diff - £450
1800 half + driver shafts - £130 - i presume reconditioned also
does this sound like a good price? i think so, i was going to have a look down the scrappy for the whole lot but figure they'd want prob. £200-£300 and i'd want a transmission specialist to have a look/adjust/recon before i fitted it anyway
reconditioned torsen diff - £450
1800 half + driver shafts - £130 - i presume reconditioned also
does this sound like a good price? i think so, i was going to have a look down the scrappy for the whole lot but figure they'd want prob. £200-£300 and i'd want a transmission specialist to have a look/adjust/recon before i fitted it anyway
err, i suppose the same way i need, or don't need a car - i could get along without but it's more fun with ?!
my 6" diff has been abused a lot on track, as such, it rattles, sounds awful on overrun and makes it difficult to downshift at high revs smoothly. additionally, the viscous unit feels as though it's past it's prime and hasn't the strength to limit slip that well, as well as having to be hot first before it even starts locking
seems daft to get my 6" recon'd, only to blow it to bits and be back here again looking to upgrade to a 7". or to upgrade to 7" open, then realise spinning up an inside wheel isn't really that much fun, then look at replacing the diff again
that and the kaaz unit looks slightly more aggresive than i want
my 6" diff has been abused a lot on track, as such, it rattles, sounds awful on overrun and makes it difficult to downshift at high revs smoothly. additionally, the viscous unit feels as though it's past it's prime and hasn't the strength to limit slip that well, as well as having to be hot first before it even starts locking
seems daft to get my 6" recon'd, only to blow it to bits and be back here again looking to upgrade to a 7". or to upgrade to 7" open, then realise spinning up an inside wheel isn't really that much fun, then look at replacing the diff again
that and the kaaz unit looks slightly more aggresive than i want
Fair enough mate. Torsen's are bullet proof. I've never actually heard of one failing on stock power, so I'm not sure a reconditioned one is worth the extra cash. If you can get one for £300 including the half shafts go for it - I paid £250 for mine. Whatever you do make sure you get the halfshafts to go with the diff and know what you're looking for when viewing a Torsen.
For the price you've been quoted I'd get a 1.8 Kaaz LSD.
For the price you've been quoted I'd get a 1.8 Kaaz LSD.
this is the thing, i know it'll be fit and forget as long as i treat it kind with oil changes etc. but a main part is getting rid of all the lash - i might get a 2nd hand 7" which is indestructible but it may well be equally worn and feel like crap!
i would get a kaaz but i think they're ~£600 plus a 7" diff + shafts + install/setup and there's probably not a lot of change from £1500
i would get a kaaz but i think they're ~£600 plus a 7" diff + shafts + install/setup and there's probably not a lot of change from £1500
Vistav said:
Yup, I was looking into this to, what do they mean by reconditioned? I'm not exactly opening up to check! Have you decided which option to take?
reconditioned should mean the the diff's been stripped, adjusted and bearings etc. replaced as necessary, essentially it should operate as well as a brand new unit.currently, i'm in two minds, i either buy a torsen diff and shafts, or buy an open diff + shafts and save for a kaaz
at the moment however i'm replacing the gearbox seeing as mk2 boxes are £100. then i'll replace the diff bushes (£100 for poly ones) then the engine mounts (£100?) i have a feeling that might cure more of the lash for me that i'm getting at the mo.
I've been looking into this also, but mostly because I have it instilled in my mind after reading lots of internets that my standard early 1.6 open diff is going to explode soon, having a supercharger and all.
But a 1.8 LSD also seems like a sensible upgrade path, to help put the power down etc etc, no?
But a 1.8 LSD also seems like a sensible upgrade path, to help put the power down etc etc, no?
Howard- said:
I've been looking into this also, but mostly because I have it instilled in my mind after reading lots of internets that my standard early 1.6 open diff is going to explode soon, having a supercharger and all.
But a 1.8 LSD also seems like a sensible upgrade path, to help put the power down etc etc, no?
Absolutely. I figure if Lazza can't destroy one, it must be strong....But a 1.8 LSD also seems like a sensible upgrade path, to help put the power down etc etc, no?
When I have therm in I sell them for £350 for a complete set up:
Diff
Prop
Half shafts
Prop bolts (they are bigger than 1.6 ones)
I have never known anyone 'recondition' a torsen nor known any to have any problem, so I'd be extremely sceptical and want to know EXACTLY what was done.
Fitting can be simple or a complete arse if everything is seized.
99% are 4.1 which usually means your 1.6 speedo will read bang on rather than over estimate.
On an NA car you may notice the higher ratio slightly dull your acceleration on an FI car you won't.
Diff
Prop
Half shafts
Prop bolts (they are bigger than 1.6 ones)
I have never known anyone 'recondition' a torsen nor known any to have any problem, so I'd be extremely sceptical and want to know EXACTLY what was done.
Fitting can be simple or a complete arse if everything is seized.
99% are 4.1 which usually means your 1.6 speedo will read bang on rather than over estimate.
On an NA car you may notice the higher ratio slightly dull your acceleration on an FI car you won't.
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