Binding brake, grr
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Howard-

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226 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Morning all,

Took the MX5 to work today as it's a lovely day but I noticed that the front nearside brake is binding again! This time it seems a bit worse as you can feel it when the car is moving at very slow speeds (like <5mph) and the wheel is getting rather hot.

It happened before but I gave it all a clean and it seemed OK for a while. But I think it might be time for new calipers!


If it is just a siezed sliding pin, what sort of grease do I need?

If it's the caliper, do I need to replace both front ones?

If so, do I need to bleed them or will clamping the flexible part of the brake hose be sufficient?

If I do need to bleed them... How do I do it? boxedin Will just doing the fronts be sufficient?

Is it going to damage my pads?



Thanks chaps!

Edited by Howard- on Friday 21st May 08:23

snotrag

15,509 posts

235 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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They bind in one of two ways -

A - the slider pin gets stuck

B - the piston corrodes and gets stuck


A is an easy fix.

Undo the bolt on the bottom rear of the caliper as if you were changing the pads - swing it up, and itll pop off. Blast off the slider pins with brake cleaner. Blast inside the rubber tubes too. Clean out with a rag/q-tip. Regrease the sliding assembly using high temp grease (buy a tin of it, will last you forever) and refit.


B - you can do a 'quick' emergency fix if you have a piston windback tool and a mate - do as before and remove the pads. Get mate to SLOWLY press the brake - you'll see the piston push out. DO NOT LET IT POP ALL THE WAY OUT.

You'll be able to peel back the rubber seal and inspect - I guess it will be well grotty. Use a bit of brakefluid as lubrication around the piston (Inside the seal). Use the windback tool to wind the piston back in. repeat process a few times, working the piston back and forth in the caliper, this may free it off for a short while.


To fix it properly - you need to sort the caliper.

Most people seem to opt for buying new/reconditioned calipers.

They say that its 'not worth the effort' to rebuild your own, is difficult, etc. Madness.

Calipers are gonna cost you about £160 IIRC for a pair.

You can strip, paint, and rebuild them both for about £50 - seal kit, pistonsnew crush washers, a litre of brake fluid and a tin of hammerite.

Et voila - nice clean shiny working calipers, AND £100 in your sky rocket. I dont knwo about you, but I value that - my time is cheap!



Yes you'll have to bleed the brakes - but again this is easy (do it with a friend the proper way, not fannyign about with an ez-bled) and you may aswell do all 4, especially if you dont know how old your fluid is.



Edited by snotrag on Friday 21st May 14:13

Howard-

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Friday 21st May 2010
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Thanks, much appreciated smile Definitely gonna try the first "clean up" method first! If I do need to replace the caliper then it's not the end of the world, they're £60 from Autolink. I can't really be arsed to strip them down in light of this tbh! wink

Howard-

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Friday 21st May 2010
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Got bored just now and started to take it all apart. Tomorrow I'm going to go and buy some cleaning/greasing products and give it a good old going over. Fingers crossed smile

bluetone

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243 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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I can see your future Howard and it involves a reconditioned brake caliper wink

Howard-

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Friday 21st May 2010
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Yeah, the key word being "future" hehe don't have time to sort one in the next few weeks so I'll clean it all up, better than I did last time (which cured it for a while) and get hold of a caliper in due course

Edited by Howard- on Friday 21st May 19:54

Howard-

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Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Ok so the caliper's fked. Oh well, time for a new one when I get back from holiday.

Prawo Jazdy

5,032 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th July 2011
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I've had my car jacked up this afternoon and noticed the front n/s wheel stops very quickly if I use my hands to spin it and let go, whereas the o/s one continues to rotate freely. The same corner of the car has also been making a creaking noise when you brake at low speeds, which I had thought was a noisy bush. When I drive the car, it doesn't pull to the left and the wheel doesn't seem to get hot.

Any ideas? Have a got a ronnied caliper like the OP?

It's a Mk2.5 Sport btw, so big brake kit if that makes any difference (apart from costing more the replace!).