August edition of Redline Magazine
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If anyone is interested there's an article in the August edition of Redilne on a slightly ridiculous MX-5 which is owned by sidewaysste. Some of you may already know of the car or Steven. If you don't, it's an interesting exercise in what can be done to a hair dressers car
If anyone is interested there's an article in the August edition of Redilne on a slightly ridiculous MX-5 which is owned by sidewaysste. Some of you may already know of the car or Steven. If you don't, it's an interesting exercise in what can be done to a hair dressers car
I saw it at Curborough when he first had it on the road. It was so manic that it was almost uncontrollable on that tight little course and I managed a quicker lap time (by quite a bit) in the underpowered PlanetMX5 Motorsports car 
Looked like he was having awesome fun in it though and was giving pax rides to anyone who asked
Looked like he was having awesome fun in it though and was giving pax rides to anyone who asked
skinny said:
might have to give that a read - i hear it's running up to 500bhp!?
In 'standard' tune with boost turned down it's probably in the order of 350 (ish) which, believe me, is painful enough when he boots it. On full boost he estimates that it's sort of around the 500 mark. He did try to dyno it but they couldn't tie it down securely enough which gives you an idea of how manic it really is.To say that it's quick is a mild understatement. What's nice though is that he hasn't just strapped a huge turbo to it without considering what that does to the rest of the car. He's put a lot of serious thought into making it reliable and durable.
Interesting doesn't cover the half of it. I suspect that on a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface he could get something of the order of 0-100 in around 5 seconds.
Two things I noticed about that car when I last saw it a couple of months ago.
It needs a cage of some description. That level of power with the only security being the ability of the driver??
He needs to bin the 888's as they're next to useless. He's putting so much power through the back wheels that the tyres are being cooked. They're ok for 1 run. Beyond that they're turning into solid rubber.
Two things I noticed about that car when I last saw it a couple of months ago.
It needs a cage of some description. That level of power with the only security being the ability of the driver??
He needs to bin the 888's as they're next to useless. He's putting so much power through the back wheels that the tyres are being cooked. They're ok for 1 run. Beyond that they're turning into solid rubber.
Snoggledog said:
I suspect that on a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface he could get something of the order of 0-100 in around 5 seconds.
On a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface I could beat 5 seconds in my car! He'd be much faster than that assuming he could get enough traction!MX-5 Lazza said:
Snoggledog said:
I suspect that on a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface he could get something of the order of 0-100 in around 5 seconds.
On a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface I could beat 5 seconds in my car! He'd be much faster than that assuming he could get enough traction!Slinky said:
MX-5 Lazza said:
Snoggledog said:
I suspect that on a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface he could get something of the order of 0-100 in around 5 seconds.
On a hot day with decent tyres on a good surface I could beat 5 seconds in my car! He'd be much faster than that assuming he could get enough traction!
Snoggledog said:
he could get something of the order of 0-100 in around 5 seconds.
He gave my brother a pax ride about 6weeks ago and on his iphone g-force/accelerometer appythingymabob, 0-60 was 3.2secs and 0-100 was 5.3secs obviously this isn't perfectly accurate but close enough, he also pulled 0.8 G in acceleration and 0.8 G under braking, this was all on a mildish day circa 20degC. As also mentioned putting down the power is the biggest issue, To quote steve 'putting down the power on low boost is difficult enough, on full boost ill be committing suicide'
Matt
Slinky said:
out of interest, what is he using for boost control?
Hope and a pair of big cahoonas IIRC, he's got a secondary ECU which manages the turbo. There's a switch in the cabin which allows him to turn boost from 'semi suicidal' to 'unleash the dogs of war'. This secondary ECU is connected to the main ECU via something or other so that they can work together and inject fuel / water / ethanol / methanol / brown stuff in unison.
Sorry.. That's the best explanation I can provide.
piefacemate said:
Sounds like an awesome motor, for us lot that don't get Redline... does anyone have any links or anything to further information, pictures and hopefully video?
Sadly I don't have a lot of info other than what I've mentioned on the thread already. As far as I'm aware there's no video but I could be wrong. For further info it would be best if you speak to Steve directly. http://www.5-speed.co.uk/index.html is his website.piefacemate said:
Trying to imagine mine with 2.5x the power... mental. Forget Porsche baiting, anyone for up for pissing off a Veyron!
Not sure how true it is, but apparently it has a higher power / weight ratio than a Veyron.Snoggledog said:
piefacemate said:
Sounds like an awesome motor, for us lot that don't get Redline... does anyone have any links or anything to further information, pictures and hopefully video?
Sadly I don't have a lot of info other than what I've mentioned on the thread already. As far as I'm aware there's no video but I could be wrong. For further info it would be best if you speak to Steve directly. http://www.5-speed.co.uk/index.html is his website.piefacemate said:
Trying to imagine mine with 2.5x the power... mental. Forget Porsche baiting, anyone for up for pissing off a Veyron!
Not sure how true it is, but apparently it has a higher power / weight ratio than a Veyron.Curb weight of your 'average' Veyron = 1888kg
So your MX5 with 500bhp is going to be mighty close w.r.t. bhp/ton.
And mental.
The low gearing and poor traction on an MX5 is always going to be a hinderance at low speeds and at higher speeds the poor aerodynamics means that something with the aerodynamics & sheer power of a Veyron will be much quicker at speed so basically the MX5 would have a window of between around 50mph to maybe 130mph where it can compete.
That would still be massively impressive though when you compare the cost & technology involved in both cars
Maybe Steve should try to get in touch with some supercar owners on PH to see if he could set up a video session...
That would still be massively impressive though when you compare the cost & technology involved in both cars
Maybe Steve should try to get in touch with some supercar owners on PH to see if he could set up a video session...
daddy cool said:
Say what? There is no way an mx5 - even with 500bhp - could match a Veyron between 50mph and 130mph. the Veyron has over 900 lb/ft torque! The mx5 wouldnt see which way it went...
The appeal isn't that the MX5 could genuinely compete with the Veyron, as it can't, it's the thought of a Veyron pelting down the motorway with a little MX5 latched onto it's bumper frantically flashing it's lights for it to move over piefacemate said:
daddy cool said:
Say what? There is no way an mx5 - even with 500bhp - could match a Veyron between 50mph and 130mph. the Veyron has over 900 lb/ft torque! The mx5 wouldnt see which way it went...
The appeal isn't that the MX5 could genuinely compete with the Veyron, as it can't, it's the thought of a Veyron pelting down the motorway with a little MX5 latched onto it's bumper frantically flashing it's lights for it to move over 
)ETA: Yes, I know it's not a Veyron
Edited by bluetone on Wednesday 21st July 13:53
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