Where do I find the Throttle Position Sensor?
Where do I find the Throttle Position Sensor?
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Legend83

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10,442 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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My car runs very nicely, until the engine warms whereby I get a shunting effect when pootling around at 2k revs.

Essentially when I ease of the throttle around this rev range, the revs dip suddenly and vice versa when I put the gas on. I end up kangaroo hopping up the road!

I have read somewhere (and advised by OnlyMX5's) that the issue could be the TPS switch....now, where do I find it and what should I do with it once I have found it?

Thanks, as ever.

L83

youngsyr

14,742 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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I would imagine the TPS is located on/near the accelerator pedal, as that is after all the variable element that controls throttle opening, but I'm not an expert so I'm sure someone else will come along and confirm/shoot me down in flames shortly.

As for what you can do with it once you've found it, I would imagine that getting a mulimeter and checking its output under the conditions where the fault appears, from pedal fully up to fully down would show up a faulty sensor. Which model do you have - I believe the sensor range for the Mk2 and later is 0-5V, but earlier cars only have an on/off signal?

You could actually check that TPS signal without even knowing where the TPS is, as the ECU wiring diagrams tell you which wire going into the ECU comes from the TPS, so you could check it there. I believe you can also test it with the engine off and the key in the pre-ignition position, but you need to be careful not to damage your coils by having the car in pre-ignition for too long.

Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 17th August 12:37

Makila2A

118 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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It's on the throttle body, on the opposite side to where the throttle cable connects. The symptoms you describe could well be a dodgy TPS.
Only thing is, that they are adjustable so you'll need a multimeter and whatever the required specs are to set up the new one.
HTH

youngsyr

14,742 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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youngsyr said:
I would imagine the TPS is located on/near the accelerator pedal, as that is after all the variable element that controls throttle opening, but I'm not an expert so I'm sure someone else will come along and confirm/shoot me down in flames shortly.
Makila2A said:
It's on the throttle body, on the opposite side to where the throttle cable connects. The symptoms you describe could well be a dodgy TPS.
Only thing is, that they are adjustable so you'll need a multimeter and whatever the required specs are to set up the new one.
HTH
I stand corrected (said the man in the orthopaedic shoes).

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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It could just as easily be plug leads, coils or the engine temp sensor on the back of the block though. Not sure how you test a TPS but I'd suggest testing it before you try to do anything to it.
What do you have controlling fuelling on your car?

Legend83

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245 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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MX-5 Lazza said:
It could just as easily be plug leads, coils or the engine temp sensor on the back of the block though. Not sure how you test a TPS but I'd suggest testing it before you try to do anything to it.
What do you have controlling fuelling on your car?
Emanage Blue.

Might swap my leads for some Magnecor jobbies - they were excellent on my old car.

MX-5 Lazza

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242 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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So is this just when rolling on/off throttle or is it more when going on/off boost?

Legend83

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Tuesday 17th August 2010
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MX-5 Lazza said:
So is this just when rolling on/off throttle or is it more when going on/off boost?
Just when rolling on / off throttle. It is usually at low speeds, in say 2nd or 3rd at 2k revs (in fact it only occurs around the 2k rev mark).

It makes going round tight mini-roundabouts a nightmare if I have to modulate the throttle through it - tries to throw me in the hedge!

youngsyr

14,742 posts

215 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Legend83 said:
MX-5 Lazza said:
So is this just when rolling on/off throttle or is it more when going on/off boost?
Just when rolling on / off throttle. It is usually at low speeds, in say 2nd or 3rd at 2k revs (in fact it only occurs around the 2k rev mark).

It makes going round tight mini-roundabouts a nightmare if I have to modulate the throttle through it - tries to throw me in the hedge!
This is a shot in the dark, but Evos tend to do this and it's caused by air being forced back through the MAF when the throttle is shut - cleaning the dump valve to ensure free movement and opening when on vacuum often cures the problem. Might be worth a try on your '5.

MX-5 Lazza

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242 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Superchargers don't have dump valves wink

MX-5 Lazza

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242 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Legend83 said:
Just when rolling on / off throttle. It is usually at low speeds, in say 2nd or 3rd at 2k revs (in fact it only occurs around the 2k rev mark).
In that case the emb is unlikely to be contributing to it as it should do nothing until it sees boost assuming the O2 clamp is set up correctly. At least that rules that out!

youngsyr

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215 months

Tuesday 17th August 2010
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MX-5 Lazza said:
Superchargers don't have dump valves wink
My mistake, I wrongly assumed L83 was running a turbo.

Legend83

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Tuesday 17th August 2010
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Cheers for persevering chaps!

I will try leads, then if that does not work I will look into any adjustment I could make to the TPS switch.