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B0LLIKS

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414 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th September 2010
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hi all, did the cosworth s/c ever get sorted, or has it bit the dust.

VladD

8,137 posts

288 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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One of the stands at Chatsworth on Sunday had a Cosworth S/C car on it's stand. I took some photos, but won't be home until the weekend, so can't yet upload them. Can't remember who the company was.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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I believe there were intial tuning problems however these appear to have been resolved, judging by digging round on miata.net. Problem is - the tuners are based in the States. I'm not sure on reliability concerns either.

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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so cosworth resolved the problems ok, was it after 2009 that mazda uprated the MX5 engine, if you could get a supercharger fitted would you do it, or would you still be a bit worried.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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I'd be worried about tuning support - all the expertise is in the States as far as I am aware. Would you send them your ECU to be flashed then sent back? Probably wirth getting in touch with DPTune I think it is to get their expert opinion.

I seem to recall reading that the upgraded internals are not actually necessary as the problem all along was with the tuning. That's just skim reading miata.net a few weeks ago though.

B0LLIKS

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414 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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i think this idear might go on the back burner then. cheers anyway.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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If it's possible I'd get the Cossie SC without fuelling/timing and have a stand-alone ecu fitted by someone who knows whet they are doing over here.
However, the issues with the old Cossie SC on the Mk3 was that the engines weren't strong enough and they were bending rods so I'd do a bit of research into how many failures there were and what they think the causes were first.

VladD

8,137 posts

288 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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It was MX5 Parts that had the SC car at Chatsworth. Might be worth giving them a call.





Edited by VladD on Monday 27th September 13:07

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

193 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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cheers for the pics, might give them a call.

RDE

5,032 posts

237 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Litchfield Imports offered a Cosworth SC upgrade - not sure if they still do.

Evo review of the results here: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2341...

nomisesor

983 posts

210 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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RDE said:
Litchfield Imports offered a Cosworth SC upgrade - not sure if they still do.

Evo review of the results here: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2341...
I looked into it after seeing the Litchfield article - however it looks as if there were numerous problems with the set-up, including terminal engine failure. Search Mx nutz for Tark. Would be happy to be corrected...

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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I've talked to the guys at MX5 Parts and they said that the only cars that have had a problem were those where the fit or tune might not have been quite right (and the vast majority of those in the states where they generally use lower quality fuel). They seemed to think that as long as it was fitted & tuned by a professional there shouldn't be a problem...

hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Interesting. Kind of confirms what's on miata.net. Not sure if whoever cracked the tuning problems are licencing their software over here? Did they mention who had the skills to install it over here?

I don't fancy being a guinea pig either! Did you discuss price Lazza? They're massively expensive iirc. Like, 5 or 6k?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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Having a Mk2.5 myself price wasn't really something I was interested in wink

There won't be many tuners with any experience of supercharging a Mk3+ but there are a lot of very good tuners around that could do a very good job of that sort of thing. I had my Adaptronic ecu fitted by Re:Worx in Portsmouth and they hadn't worked on an Adaptronic, supercharger or Mk2.5 before but they did a good job. There is also a good guy that Charlie (Surrey Rolling Road) knows who works on the same business park as him and who did a bit of extra tuning for me who I'd trust to do it too (I can't remember his name right now).

I'm not sure what the fuelling/timing solution for it is but as I said before, I'd be happiest with a stand-alone ecu tuned by an expert.

Edited by MX-5 Lazza on Tuesday 28th September 11:25

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

193 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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hi, from what i read it must have been pretty serious as owners were getting letters saying not to use the car. even though i like the idear of having a supercharger fitted, i am rather worried about reliability.

VladD

8,137 posts

288 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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B0LLIKS said:
hi, from what i read it must have been pretty serious as owners were getting letters saying not to use the car. even though i like the idear of having a supercharger fitted, i am rather worried about reliability.
Would it be worth contacting Cosworth themselves to see what they have to say on the matter? Straight from the horses mouth as it were. biggrin

hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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VladD said:
B0LLIKS said:
hi, from what i read it must have been pretty serious as owners were getting letters saying not to use the car. even though i like the idear of having a supercharger fitted, i am rather worried about reliability.
Would it be worth contacting Cosworth themselves to see what they have to say on the matter? Straight from the horses mouth as it were. biggrin
Yeah that info is going back a while (Tark Malbot?!) and I believe things have moved on since then.

rfn

4,601 posts

230 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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hornetrider said:
VladD said:
B0LLIKS said:
hi, from what i read it must have been pretty serious as owners were getting letters saying not to use the car. even though i like the idear of having a supercharger fitted, i am rather worried about reliability.
Would it be worth contacting Cosworth themselves to see what they have to say on the matter? Straight from the horses mouth as it were. biggrin
Yeah that info is going back a while (Tark Malbot?!) and I believe things have moved on since then.
Whose Galaxy Grey 'charged car is now owned by Paul Roddison, I believe.

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

193 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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yep could be the best plan, horses mouth and all that.

B0LLIKS

Original Poster:

414 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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reply to my last post....well i contacted cosworth and they have no plans to develope a supercharger kit for the new MX5. they did put me onto a company who are developing a kit for the new MX5. a quick look at their site gives me a feeling things might be looking up. oh the company is Brodie Britain racing.