Yes, another what watch thread.
Yes, another what watch thread.
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Tanguero

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4,535 posts

232 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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My employer has just given me a gift of £240 to celebrate 10 years of me being too lazy to find another job. Amongst other ideas (japanese knives, tools etc) as to how to spend this vast token of their esteem obviously a watch has to be on the list.

Your mission should you choose to accept it.

a) Mechanical.
b) Not a dive watch. (I just don't like them by and large)

Suggestions please smile

Ikemi

8,610 posts

236 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Have a look at Christopher Ward, more notably the C5 Malvern: http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/dress.html?mo...

Probably the best quality, automatic, non-dive watch available under £300 smile

mikeveal

5,139 posts

281 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Tanguero said:
My employer has just given me a gift of £240 to celebrate 10 years of me being too lazy to find another job. Amongst other ideas (japanese knives, tools etc) as to how to spend this vast token of their esteem obviously a watch has to be on the list.

Your mission should you choose to accept it.

a) Mechanical.
b) Not a dive watch. (I just don't like them by and large)

Suggestions please smile
That's nice. I got a silver biro. frown

Standard question - standard answers.
Christopher ward (only available online)
Tissot Visodate
Something old from ebay. £240 will get you a reasonable (but not great) Seamaster in a dress watch style, or something very nice from the 30's 40's.

Tanguero

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4,535 posts

232 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Something old but good certainly appeals rather more than something new. What would be in your "very nice" list among the older watches?

Edited by Tanguero on Monday 12th September 20:29

mikeveal

5,139 posts

281 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Take a look at these two watch dealers :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/holbensfinewatches/m.htm...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/michaelh54619/m.html?_nk...

The brands these guys deal with (Hamilton, Benrus, are lesser known, or less well respected than the likes of Omega, Breitling etc. IMHO, they make a sensible purchase in your price range. Good quality movement, good quality case, unusual often art deco design. If you see something you like, I suggest you search ebay for similar models to establish "worth". You may well find a decent example elsewhere.

Buy from these guys and you will pay top dollar. That said, the watches are in pretty good nick, often with referbed dials. I've never used Holbens, but I'm very happy with my watch from Michael H. I have a 1960 something Hamilton Darwin, 10K white gold filled case, new acrylic bezel. The watch is mint, you would not know it from a new watch....

Excepting that old watches like these are small by modern standards. My darwin is a little over 1" square. These days that would be considered a ladies size. Personally, I don't care, it's an old watch and that's how they were.
I strongly suggest you make a cardboard cutout watch from the dimensions in the auctions and try it on your wrist before pulling the trigger.

You also need to remember that you will probably be charged 20% VAT when you import. Plus a cheeky £8 or so by your courier for handling the VAT charge. I say probably as customs don't pick up on every parcel.

The two guys I've listed do service thier watches. Michael H seemed to have done a decent job, the watch has been working fine for several months. I can't speak for Holbens. I have previously purchased a Omega from ebay that apparently was serviced, within a few weeks it was gaining 5 mins per hour. My watch maker found that the balance spring was so soaked in oil that the coils were sticking together, shortening the effective length of the spring. A full service cost me £60.


So, caveat emptor. On top of the final bid price, you need to add postage (should be clear on the ebay site), 20% import duty and £60ish for a service. You may not need to get the watch serviced, but if you budget for it, then you're being realistic. If you don't need it, then you're quids in.

The only other thing you need to know is that engraved watches are considerably cheaper than those without engravings.

Post some pics., if you aquire something nice. Hope that helps.


ETA - These sellers should come with a wealth warning. You may want more than one vintage watch....



Edited by mikeveal on Tuesday 13th September 13:17

Tanguero

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4,535 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Thank you Mike for your excellent thoughts and advice! Much appreciated.

Watch size is not an issue, my regular wear is my late grandfathers Vertex Allproof which as you say is by today's standards barely larger than a current ladies watch. I much prefer it to a larger watch particularly when wearing a shirt with French cuffs.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Tissot Visodate.

Buy new. Cheap old watches are usually knackered, crap, dirty and very very small.



Edited by GC8 on Wednesday 14th September 07:18

P7ULG

1,052 posts

314 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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This looks rather nice and you would also get some change !

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-1955-Hamilton-Trans...

Sorry thought that was a buy it now price getmecoat







Edited by P7ULG on Tuesday 13th September 20:16


Edited by P7ULG on Tuesday 13th September 23:27

rog007

5,832 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Oldtimer every time at this sort of price point; less depreciation, a bit of history on your wrist and a new watch just looks tacky IMHO!

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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GC8 said:
Tissot Visodate.

Buy new. Cheap old watches are usually knackered, crap, dirty and very very small.

I'll vote for this too.

Very nice in reality. Consider the £240 from work as you getting it half-price.

GC8

19,910 posts

221 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Youd only need to add £45 to buy the watch in my link.

ApexJimi

27,781 posts

274 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Tanguero said:
Amongst other ideas (japanese knives)
What knives, may I ask?

Tanguero

Original Poster:

4,535 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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ApexJimi said:
Tanguero said:
Amongst other ideas (japanese knives)
What knives, may I ask?
I have been considering either JCK Original "Kagayaki" or RYUSEN Tsuchime Damascus or possibly something from Mr. Nagao's Tenmi-Jyuraku series
Decisions decisions...

JAM35F

1,268 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Tell your employer they are tight, I got an Omega SMP for 5 years! Just passed 10 years and took cash and extra holiday allowance. Still bought a watch but got a G-Shock as the cash is earmarked for something far more responsible sadly.

Joking aside, nice you got a present, not many employers value long term service these days (I only reached 10 years as I'm lazy and the rut I'm stuck in is too well paid with a short commute!)

Tanguero

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4,535 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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I consider it a testament to the fact that I am too lazy to go and find a job that I will enjoy, while the pay cheques keep rolling in. I think the award is probably commensurate with the regard that we hold each other in... wink

My 5 year award was a "pick from a list of things that HR think you will hate" type thing - so my wife ended up with a rectangular face Tissot (quartz) as she had put up with 5 years of me pissing and moaning about them.

And yes - they are tight!

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

313 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Ikemi

8,610 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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You should count yourselves lucky ... My employer does not award anything for 5 or 10 year milestones! However, the pension is excellent biggrin

Tanguero

Original Poster:

4,535 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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CraigVmax said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I really rather like the style of the watch overall but I am definitely looking for mechanical rather than quartz and I don't much care for the engraved back.

tertius

6,914 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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From what you say I really think you will get a far better knife for that money than you will a watch. A knife at that money will last for ever.

I recently bought one of these - absolutely terrifyingly sharp and lovely to use.

But what I'd really like is a knife from this guy

Sunglasses Ron

540 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th September 2011
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Lucky you, all I got for 10 years service was a poxy badge and a generic letter.

Good luck in finding the watch you want though. cool