Me again, sorry folks, £1500 comparison....
Me again, sorry folks, £1500 comparison....
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silverback mike

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11,293 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Sorry paperbag

Really in the unknown again, I want to spend £1500 max on a watch.

I like the Omega seamaster, and also a tag carrera.

Before I let the moths out of the wallet, is there anything else of similar ilk to those two makes.

banghead Big thing for me this watch thing.

biggrin Any help greatly appreciated.

Mike beer

tertius

6,914 posts

261 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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New or used?

Which model of each do you like? Will help with suggestions.

silverback mike

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11,293 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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I suppose am looking at new as I would feel more secure.

I have always liked the seamaster but there are a lot around and in my humble opinion 'tag' is seen as a sort of default good watch....

The last decent watch I bought was my only watch, 20 years ago and £250 on a seiko kinetic which sadly has gone bonkers recently. I would have kept it otherwise. So it's a watch that is a singular every day keeper.

But, being a seasoned ph'er if a member has a good used one then I would buy from here rather than another means if that makes sense.

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Lunablack

3,494 posts

193 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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They are out there.... I recently sold a mint, 1 year old, black faced co-ax Seamaster for £1500...

Just keep your eyes peeled, on here, and on TZ, decent ones do come upsmile

silverback mike

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11,293 posts

284 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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eyes peeled luna biggrin

5439cc

324 posts

182 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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If you're looking at new models for that price the Omega will be a quartz and the TAG an automatic, surely? If so i'd have the Carrera, it's also regarded as a 'driving' watch too - well the old Heuers' were.

Used, at this budget, then i would be leaning towards an auto SMP.

Otherwise i think it comes done to trying both on and see what suits!

Lefty

21,546 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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5439cc said:
Used, at this budget, then i would be leaning towards an auto SMP.
Offtopic a bit I'm afraid.

I'm not really into watches that much but why have the prices gone up a lot in recent years?

I bought a new, blue-faced seamaster full-size auto about 10 years ago and it was about a grand after discount! New ones these days are about double that, is it essentially the same watch? I assume the devaluation of the pund against the euro hasn't helped but surely that's nopt enough to warrant a 100% increase in UK RRP?

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Lefty said:
Offtopic a bit I'm afraid.

I'm not really into watches that much but why have the prices gone up a lot in recent years?

I bought a new, blue-faced seamaster full-size auto about 10 years ago and it was about a grand after discount! New ones these days are about double that, is it essentially the same watch? I assume the devaluation of the pund against the euro hasn't helped but surely that's nopt enough to warrant a 100% increase in UK RRP?
The whole "premium" watch market has gone looney-tunes over the past few years, with Rolex leading the charge.

Ikemi

8,610 posts

236 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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CommanderJameson said:
Lefty said:
Offtopic a bit I'm afraid.

I'm not really into watches that much but why have the prices gone up a lot in recent years?

I bought a new, blue-faced seamaster full-size auto about 10 years ago and it was about a grand after discount! New ones these days are about double that, is it essentially the same watch? I assume the devaluation of the pund against the euro hasn't helped but surely that's nopt enough to warrant a 100% increase in UK RRP?
The whole "premium" watch market has gone looney-tunes over the past few years, with Rolex leading the charge.
Omega has implemented some steep price increases in order to align the brand with the likes of Rolex, which is why the majority of the range are rather more expensive than say 2-3 years ago, let alone 10 years!

TAG have been upping their prices; Monaco chronographs are nearly £4K RRP frown Although the increase throughout the TAG range doesn't seem to be as aggressive as Omega. There are still discounts to be had though!

To the OP, I'd try on a Carrera and a Seamaster to see which one you prefer, as they are two completely different types of watch! smile Then decide on new or pre-owned. If the latter, there are lots of decent second hand examples from reputable sellers.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Ikemi said:
Omega has implemented some steep price increases in order to align the brand with the likes of Rolex, which is why the majority of the range are rather more expensive than say 2-3 years ago, let alone 10 years!
I was chatting to Dominic H about this last week. I think Omega could be heading for a bloody nose with this one.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Ikemi said:
Omega has implemented some steep price increases in order to align the brand with the likes of Rolex, which is why the majority of the range are rather more expensive than say 2-3 years ago, let alone 10 years!
No kidding; I bought my PO new, for £1700-odd (with 10% discount) about 3 years ago.

The exact same watch now retails at £2800.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Oi! Silverback! - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... much is this worth

silverback mike

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11,293 posts

284 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Pod, long time no speak, hope all is well. biggrin

Good spot re the watch but I'm after a metal strapped version really!

beer

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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silverback mike said:
Pod, long time no speak, hope all is well. biggrin

Good spot re the watch but I'm after a metal strapped version really!

beer
Yeah, good thanks. Hope life is treating you well too.

No harm in asking, and looking for a separate strap from Tag...?

silverback mike

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11,293 posts

284 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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All well here cheers. Yes, well worth an ask, and pricing up a suitable bracelet.

Mind you, I've been salivating over a brightling colt for about 1700...oh god... banghead

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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silverback mike said:
All well here cheers. Yes, well worth an ask, and pricing up a suitable bracelet.

Mind you, I've been salivating over a brightling colt for about 1700...oh god... banghead
If buying new, speak to Dominic H...

andy_s

19,857 posts

290 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Interesting comments re pricing, true that Rolex have almost doubled, Omega were quick to follow suit and TAG, IWC et al are pushing as high as they can get away with. Some of this is down to a 20% change in the Eu/£ rates I'd imagine, but the rest....mmmm.

I think this leaves a big chunk of market at right around this £1.5K price point - who's filling it?

Sinn are still there - just - with their 103, 256 and 356 chronos or their U1, U2, UX, 657, 857 etc non-chronos.
Guinand offer more in certain respects for a good price, esp. the 40. series.
Then you've got the likes of Oris, Ball and Glycine to have a look at too.

All of the above are quite well regarded, automatic & all fall in around the 1.5k mark with steel bracelet.

(I must admit it's been a while since I looked at new prices and I'm absolutely gobsmacked!)

Lefty

21,546 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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I bought a Sinn u1 from chronomaster last year and it's a lovely thing. Was ~£1k.


Ikemi

8,610 posts

236 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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The question is, will premium watch prices ever decrease? Even the Omega quartz models are now eye-wateringly expensive! Surely there is a point where only a select few will buy new, whereas most others will turn to the second hand market ... AD's, non-AD's, eBay etc

LukeBird

17,170 posts

240 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Ikemi said:
The question is, will premium watch prices ever decrease?
When the new money in China/Russia etc. runs out, I can't see any solution but to drop their prices, these brands are effectively pricing themselves out of the 'traditional' European/U.S. markets, because our wages haven't increased at the same rate as the price rises have.

This is completely disregarding the fact that a Submariner at ~£5k is pure insanity.