Longines conquest
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Suinimtao

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Tuesday 6th March 2012
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I was in Kingston at the weekend and popped into Fraser Hart as they seemed to have a pretty good selection of nice watches.
Amongst others I tried on a longines conquest chrono on a rubber strap with black ceramic fixed bezel. It retails at £1550, which I think for an auto is a pretty good price?
The other watches I tried included a new PO, which is nice but at £3800 its £1k more than the older version. how's that then ?
I also tried on the IWC spitfire chrono on a brown leather strap which was very nice and definately the one I'd go for if I had the spare cash hanging around. I realise that these watches are completely different and are in different price brackets. Through fear of rambling on and not actually making a point.........what I did notice in the Longines was the amount of vibration that the movement made which was not apparent in the more expensive watches. So is this what an extra Couple of grand buys you, a movement that doesnt vibrate through the case?

I have a Raymond Weil auto which cost about £600 and I don't get movement vibration when wearing it....

Thanks
Barry

CardShark

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210 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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The Longines has an ETA7750 movement which is well known for it's rotor wobble, it's a characteristic rather than a fault or sign of poor quality. I used to own the all steel bracelet version, great watch, I think that CraigVMax on here has the exact version that you've tried. The Omega has a movement unique to the brand as is arguably of a higher quality, though that's not to say that it's necessarily worth the money, only you could decide that.

Suinimtao

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Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Ah that's interesting, am I right in saying that quite a few Swiss watches use this same movement. Do they all 'suffer' from wobble? I'd be interested to from anyone that has this watch to see if it gets annoying!?

CardShark

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Tuesday 6th March 2012
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It's a common movement for chronographs, though it's not always obvious if it's being used in any particular watch as some brands, and I think I can include Longines here, call the movement by a different name, mostly for marketing reasons I'd guess however the 7750 can be tweaked in various ways. I've had 2 or 3 watches now with a 7750 inside, the wobble never bothered me once, it's not always obvious.

Ikemi

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236 months

Wednesday 7th March 2012
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Suinimtao said:
Ah that's interesting, am I right in saying that quite a few Swiss watches use this same movement. Do they all 'suffer' from wobble? I'd be interested to from anyone that has this watch to see if it gets annoying!?
Just a quick one ... The wobble is awesome! biggrin It's due to the fact that the 7750 movement only winds in one direction, whereas the rotor 'freewheels' in the other direction. As a result, if you move your wrist in a way that spins the rotor quickly in the freewheel direction, the weight of the rotor causes the watch to wobble on your wrist.

It doesn't happen all the time though, so it doesn't get annoying ... It also depends on the size and height of the watch as to how much wobble there is smile

Also, the new PO is £1K more expensive due to the new design, new in-house Calibre 8500 movement and see-through display back smile

ETA: 'Wobble' is different to vibration through the case ... My Glycine doesn't vibrate with slight movements, iyswim?

Suinimtao

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Thursday 8th March 2012
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Ikemi said:
Just a quick one ... The wobble is awesome! biggrin It's due to the fact that the 7750 movement only winds in one direction, whereas the rotor 'freewheels' in the other direction. As a result, if you move your wrist in a way that spins the rotor quickly in the freewheel direction, the weight of the rotor causes the watch to wobble on your wrist.

It doesn't happen all the time though, so it doesn't get annoying ... It also depends on the size and height of the watch as to how much wobble there is smile

Also, the new PO is £1K more expensive due to the new design, new in-house Calibre 8500 movement and see-through display back smile

ETA: 'Wobble' is different to vibration through the case ... My Glycine doesn't vibrate with slight movements, iyswim?
Ah thanks for the explanation. I only wonder if I bought the longines that I would still want the IWC, when I suppose I could put the cost of the longines down as a deposit and go down the interest free route......

The PO was very nice indeed but I'm not sure I could justify nearly £4k for an omega.

What other options would people suggest. I am a slight brand snob (maybe more out of ignorance ), but like oris and longines as think they are under rated and good value. Would look at bracelet or brown leather strap, more of a casual Saturday watch but could still be worn under a double cuff to work?