Bit of advice please

[st33ly]

I currently have an Omega PO midsize on stainless bracelet, rubber strap with clasp and the obligatory orange NATO.
A mint 1969 omega chronostop with original box and papers. Small size.
A 2010 Oris BC3 on stainless bracelet box and papers
TW Steel TW20 on black leather. Was a gift so i'll never sell it as its very dear to me.

What I am thinking of doing is selling the Vintage Omega and Oris BC3 for this - http://www.bellross.com/uk/#/collections/vintage/o...

My line of thought being The B&R is a dress watch and the Omega PO is my classy divers casual watch. And this will lead to me not wanting any other watches

Any thoughts on rough price for the chronostop and Oris BC3 selling and opinions on my line of thought?

regards Craig

[Ikemi]

st33ly said:

My line of thought being The B&R is a dress watch and the Omega PO is my classy divers casual watch. And this will lead to me not wanting any other watches

Hahahahahahahaha! You know that's not going to happen!

I'd question yourself; How attached are you to the vintage Omega and BC3? Do you wear them often? Do you think you might regret the decision to sell one/both? Is the pull towards the B&R great enough?

It might also be worth trying on the B&R before making such a decision. You'd be gutted if you sold the watches, only to find the B&R looks/feels a bit odd on the wrist. Otherwise, I'd say go for it! Be sure to push for discount though

I have a B&R myself (a BR02-94) and it's a fantastic bit of kit! B&R are outstanding when it comes to attention to detail and finishes ... It's also a relatively unknown manufacturer among Joe Public, something a bit different; your work colleagues won't notice it, but other watch enthusiasts will

Edited by Ikemi on Wednesday 13th June 23:22

[st33ly]

Thanks for the advice mate. I'm going to go to Edinburgh and try the B&R next week and see what the fits like before I decide. I really do like my Chronostop because its truly mint. And I love just winding it a bit and listening to it tick. Strange i know. I'll keep you up-dated.

[Ikemi]

Is selling the BC3 and keeping the Chronostop an option, or do both need to go in order to fund the B&R? If the latter, how about paying for the watch on a credit card with 0% finance over 10-12 months? This way, you can obtain discount and pay for the watch in monthly installments ... If you opt for a 0% interest deal via an Authorised Dealer, such as Jura Watches, you'll most likely not obtain any discount.

[Spice_Weasel]

B&R residuals tend to be quite poor. I would not trade your 2 watches for a new B&R. Can you find a used one?

[Ikemi]

Spice_Weasel said:

B&R residuals tend to be quite poor. I would not trade your 2 watches for a new B&R. Can you find a used one?

As Spice Weasel said, second hand is worth looking at too ... Which B&R Vintage are you after? The 'Original', 'Officer', 'Heritage'?

[Spice_Weasel]

Neil at Chronomaster gets a few in: http://chronomaster.co.uk/bell_&_ross.htm

Austin Kaye: http://www.austinkaye.co.uk/Bell-and-Ross-73_0_c.a...

Blowers: http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/bell_ross_anoni...

[st33ly]

It was the Vintage BR123 I was looking at. It just sprung out at me when looking at the Blowers web site. It's geed to hear all these points. Especially about residuals.

[Ikemi]

st33ly said:

It was the Vintage BR123 I was looking at.

There are a few different variations though ... These are just the black dialed BR123 models:

'Original':

Officer:

Heritage:

Carbon:


Slight changes in numerals, hand sets, finish, text etc ... I was just wondering, as I looked for a few second hand examples for you, but there are lots of BR123 models to choose from!

[st33ly]

Ikemi I cannot thank you enough for the help you have given me on this thread. Really a very big thank you. It was the style in the first photo that caught my eye because it just look simple and less is more type thing. However I've spied an 2004 Omega de-ville in black with black leather that looks stunning too. Arggghhh!!!. But I do really like the R&B because its different.

[st33ly]

Or do I try and see if I can get a black or blue dial Omega DeVille. Good bit more expensive though.

[Ikemi]

No worries ... Glad to help!

Which DeVille have you spotted? Can you post a pic? Is it much more expensive than the B&R? Does it have the co-axial movement? If yes to the latter, then I'd probably consider it over the B&R! The decision, of which looks and wears best, is up to you though

[nikaiyo2]

Mappin & Webb are offering 0% on B&R at the moment if thats any help to you

[st33ly]

DeVille this one http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/deville/co-axial...

But got my eye on this stunning Aqua Terra http://www.hackettwatches.com/hw/items/PART8V9KWP

Both apron £500 more than the B&R but they look stunning.

[Ikemi]

A COSC certified chronograph movement with co-axial escapement for £500 more ... You'd almost be mad not to! However you're more likely to see a DeVille/AT in the wild, whereas the B&R is relatively unknown. Get both; it's the only option

Also, Dom is a top chap to deal with if you decide to go for the AT listed on his website

[st33ly]

Going to try a few on today to get a feel for them as my PO is 41mm and don't want anything bigger than that.

cheers

[st33ly]

Balls the Aqua Terra is sold. Now thinking the DeVille chronograph is the way forward but just don't know.

[Ikemi]

st33ly said:

Balls the Aqua Terra is sold. Now thinking the DeVille chronograph is the way forward but just don't know.

Definitely try both the DeVille and Bell & Ross on before you make a decision I see you're based in Scotland ... Are there any shopping centres in your area that have multiple jewellers to make this a bit easier? Alternatively, if you're down in London, check out Harrods, Old Bond Street, Hatton Gardens, Burlington Arcade, Selfridges etc ... So many manufacturers, so many models to choose from! The Harrods Fine Watch Department is a watch enthusiast's sweet shop

Hopefully you'll find something you like and then work on getting it cheaper elsewhere/striking up a deal!

Also, I see you already have a PO ... Maybe the B&R would be a good choice as something a bit different? I have a PO too, so I wouldn't want to spend DeVille money on another Omega. Nothing wrong with the watch/brand, but I like some variety and offerings from lesser known companies

Edited by Ikemi on Monday 25th June 13:46

[AndrewWF]

st33ly said:

It was the Vintage BR123 I was looking at. It just sprung out at me when looking at the Blowers web site. It's geed to hear all these points. Especially about residuals.

You might like this then, the recently released Vintage BR 126:

[Spice_Weasel]

I remembered this thread when I stumbled across this B&R Vintage 123 Officer for £1100 on TZ SC:

http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t...