Submariner LV - Old vs New
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Made as a fiftieth anniversary celebration of the Submariner, the 16610 LV gave away a few of the features from the Submariner 116610 that would replace it, specifically the maxi markers and hands, but that's not what it will be remembered for - the vivid green 'Lunette Verde,' or green bezel, was the part that made the headlines.
The updated 116610 LV has, of course, a ceramic green bezel, but it also has a sunburst green dial inside the larger case to compliment it. Has it evolved well from the old design or has it taken the concept too far? Is that much green too much? I know which I prefer, but to help you make up your minds, here is a pic of the two generations of LV standing proud together (click the link for higher res):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78669534@N05/76504977...
The updated 116610 LV has, of course, a ceramic green bezel, but it also has a sunburst green dial inside the larger case to compliment it. Has it evolved well from the old design or has it taken the concept too far? Is that much green too much? I know which I prefer, but to help you make up your minds, here is a pic of the two generations of LV standing proud together (click the link for higher res):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/78669534@N05/76504977...
DH01 said:
Older version for me.
The newer LV looks odd because the bracelet was never resized to the new case , leaving the awkward shoulders. On the older one there is a nice smooth transition from case to bracelet.
This is so true, yet on the new 42mm Explorer 2, the lugs taper in the classic style and the lug width has been increased from 20 to 21 mm. The newer LV looks odd because the bracelet was never resized to the new case , leaving the awkward shoulders. On the older one there is a nice smooth transition from case to bracelet.
DH01 said:
Older version for me.
The newer LV looks odd because the bracelet was never resized to the new case , leaving the awkward shoulders. On the older one there is a nice smooth transition from case to bracelet.
I love the new one The newer LV looks odd because the bracelet was never resized to the new case , leaving the awkward shoulders. On the older one there is a nice smooth transition from case to bracelet.
Will be interesting to try one, as I don't understand why the case wider if it's still a 40mm watch?
The case is still a 40mm diameter on the new ceramic bezel version, but the lugs are more of a square shape. It gives the appearance of a bigger watch without actually being any wider.
I just don't get the Rolex strategy for its sports models designs as the case sizes and shapes are all over the place now.
I just don't get the Rolex strategy for its sports models designs as the case sizes and shapes are all over the place now.
Spice_Weasel said:
The case is still a 40mm diameter on the new ceramic bezel version, but the lugs are more of a square shape. It gives the appearance of a bigger watch without actually being any wider.
That's exactly it - the angle that the lugs drop down at is much steeper than it used to be, leaving the lugs much wider at their tip.Vvroom said:
Not to hi-jack, but has anyone ever swapped the black bezel insert form their sub and put a green one in?
I have a 16610 back sub, and wondered abotu this if I ever fancied a change.
It can be done yes, but the LV model had larger hour markers so you end up with a dial and bezel combo that never existed as far as Rolex are concerned. This is why Rolex won't do this for you - you could only do it by getting hold of the bezel (or just insert) yourself. Have seen a picture of an LV with a black bezel before, looks cool. Not seen green bezel on a non-LV before though. I have a 16610 back sub, and wondered abotu this if I ever fancied a change.
AlexWF said:
It can be done yes, but the LV model had larger hour markers so you end up with a dial and bezel combo that never existed as far as Rolex are concerned. This is why Rolex won't do this for you - you could only do it by getting hold of the bezel (or just insert) yourself. Have seen a picture of an LV with a black bezel before, looks cool. Not seen green bezel on a non-LV before though.
Might be worth a try!Thanks Alex
Vvroom said:
Might be worth a try!
Thanks Alex
Here's a youtube guide if you're feeling brave! I'd stick a bit of masking tape over the lug first before prizing the bezel off though. Oh, and it's all at your own risk!Thanks Alex
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__y-IJt_IOY
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