40th Birthday - Which Watch?
40th Birthday - Which Watch?
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SimNugget

Original Poster:

580 posts

193 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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I am 40 later this year so think it is time for another watch. My wife has kindly offered to fund a purchase around the RRP of a SS Daytona and I have never owned a Rolex but.....

I know the Daytona is an iconic watch, but I find the SS versions quite bland - the face on the white gold model looks much nicer or ideally I would like a meteorite dial as I think they look great but again that can only be had on the white gold. I bought my wife a meteorite datejust a few years ago and really like the face. But white gold is well beyond budget.

The other option is to get a vintage from my year of birth, but the ones I like tend to be sports models and here I do like the older Daytona but they are serious money. Would a 40 year old watch, even if serviced and maintained be likely to last another 40 years?

Or I knock that idea on the head and get an IWC, but I am worried that they are a bit fashionable at the moment and if I ad it down in 40 years time my offspring may just say WTF is this?

All input and thoughts greatly appreciated.

S

ETOPS

3,907 posts

221 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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I'd second Custodian's sentiments. Excellent watches.

An IWC Portuguese would be a wonderful alternative to a Rolex, but much more elegant in appearance, if you we're after something's little less 'tool' looking.

Not totally up to date with Daytonas, I know their value has gone up... If I'm not mistaken, however, should you want a tool watch with a bulkier finish, may I suggest a JLC Master Compressor divers watch? Utterly stunning.

You're in the realms of real haute horology at that point...

Something to consider...

SimNugget

Original Poster:

580 posts

193 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Thanks for the input, previous watch purchases tend to be more impulsive but this is serious spend so I want to be absolutely certain I make the correct choice.

S

Adrian W

15,059 posts

251 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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SimNugget said:
Thanks for the input, previous watch purchases tend to be more impulsive but this is serious spend so I want to be absolutely certain I make the correct choice.

S
Depends on how many watches you have, I'm not a fan of the new Daytona, but the earlier version are very nice, a pre 98 Zenith movement would be nice, have a look at JLC if it's a keeper, Or maybe Panerai, you may want to consider used, to get better value

SimNugget

Original Poster:

580 posts

193 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Adrian W said:
Depends on how many watches you have, I'm not a fan of the new Daytona
I have:
Panerai
Omega Speedmaster
Chopard GMT Speed Black
Heuer Monza
Tag Kirium

I definitely want this to be a keeper and one I could potentially hand down.

S

Adrian W

15,059 posts

251 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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SimNugget said:
I have:
Panerai
Omega Speedmaster
Chopard GMT Speed Black
Heuer Monza
Tag Kirium

I definitely want this to be a keeper and one I could potentially hand down.

S
Then I would definitely take a look at JLC,

Lunablack

3,494 posts

185 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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SimNugget said:
I have:
Panerai
Omega Speedmaster
Chopard GMT Speed Black
Heuer Monza
Tag Kirium

I definitely want this to be a keeper and one I could potentially hand down.

S
That's a nice set.... I'd be looking at JLC, Blancpain & Rolex,

marcosgt

11,429 posts

199 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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Blancpain Fifty Fathom?

Longines Legend Diver?

Iwc Portugese?

Heuer Monaco?

Max bill chrono?

Probably well below your budget, but I'd take any of those over a Daytona, personally.
M

Lunablack

3,494 posts

185 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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custodian said:
Whereas I'd be looking at IWC, Vacheron and Audemars
All good....apart from IWC..... My one experience of the brand, wasn't what I'd hoped for...

Lunablack

3,494 posts

185 months

Sunday 10th February 2013
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custodian said:
What went wrong?
...

Broken mainspring on a well looked after Aquatimer...IWC not interested..

Same because I was about to buy a 3227 ingeniur..... I bought a Panerai instead.smile

michael gould

5,698 posts

264 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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At least buy a watch from a company who makes their own movements, otherwise you are effectively buying a Swatch. Most IWC's have ETA movements as do most of the "posh" makes. Rolex do however make their own movements.......they also sell 1.2m watches per year so hardly exclusive ....more inclusive

Buy a second hand Patek, JLC or Vacheron and submerse yourself in the smug knowledge that you actually own a watch that means something smile …….plenty of wonderful watches available for around 5k and for 20k you could buy a half decent new one

andy tims

5,598 posts

269 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Daytona money will get you a Birth year Rolex "Red" Submariner

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

208 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Dornbluth.. with a trip out to pick it up once built! Definitely an ambition to own one of these watches some day!

marcosgt

11,429 posts

199 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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michael gould said:
At least buy a watch from a company who makes their own movements, otherwise you are effectively buying a Swatch. Most IWC's have ETA movements as do most of the "posh" makes. Rolex do however make their own movements.......they also sell 1.2m watches per year so hardly exclusive ....more inclusive

Buy a second hand Patek, JLC or Vacheron and submerse yourself in the smug knowledge that you actually own a watch that means something smile …….plenty of wonderful watches available for around 5k and for 20k you could buy a half decent new one
Or buy the watch you like and don't obsess about things that don't matter a jot to you or 99.999999% of the population... wink

M.

Lunablack

3,494 posts

185 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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marcosgt said:
Or buy the watch you like and don't obsess about things that don't matter a jot to you or 99.999999% of the population... wink
M.
Best advice yet...... I used to buy what I thought would be popular... 6 months down the road I'd be thinking actually, I'm not that keen on this and sell it....

Now my small collection consists of a few watches that I wear all the time....because I like themsmile

michael gould

5,698 posts

264 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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marcosgt said:
michael gould said:
At least buy a watch from a company who makes their own movements, otherwise you are effectively buying a Swatch. Most IWC's have ETA movements as do most of the "posh" makes. Rolex do however make their own movements.......they also sell 1.2m watches per year so hardly exclusive ....more inclusive

Buy a second hand Patek, JLC or Vacheron and submerse yourself in the smug knowledge that you actually own a watch that means something smile …….plenty of wonderful watches available for around 5k and for 20k you could buy a half decent new one
Or buy the watch you like and don't obsess about things that don't matter a jot to you or 99.999999% of the population... wink

M.
looks like im one of the 00.0000001% of the population smile

Adrian W

15,059 posts

251 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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michael gould said:
At least buy a watch from a company who makes their own movements, otherwise you are effectively buying a Swatch.
Not all Swatch's use ETA movements

Swatch Group watch and jewelry brands
Prestige and Luxury Range: Breguet, Blancpain, Glashütte Original, Jaquet Droz, Léon Hatot, Omega, Tiffany & Co.;
High Range: Longines, Rado, Union Glashütte;
Middle Range: Tissot, ck watch & jewelry, Balmain, Certina, Mido, Hamilton;
Basic Range: Swatch, Flik Flak;
Private label: Endura.

andy tims

5,598 posts

269 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Adrian W said:
michael gould said:
At least buy a watch from a company who makes their own movements, otherwise you are effectively buying a Swatch.
Not all Swatch's use ETA movements

Swatch Group watch and jewelry brands
Prestige and Luxury Range: Breguet, Blancpain, Glashütte Original, Jaquet Droz, Léon Hatot, Omega, Tiffany & Co.;
High Range: Longines, Rado, Union Glashütte;
Middle Range: Tissot, ck watch & jewelry, Balmain, Certina, Mido, Hamilton;
Basic Range: Swatch, Flik Flak;
Private label: Endura.
I had a really nice "Swatch" a while back wink



yeti

10,523 posts

298 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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Personally, at that price point and for something as special as a 40th birthday, I would be looking at Haute Horologie. That's not 'most' IWCs or Panerais; yes I know they make manufacture movements now, but not many.

Jaeger LeCoultre would be my choice for that, a Reverso either with a complication on the rear or something special engraved on it from the other half to you.

Mind you, a 40 year old sub with plexiglass is a thing of beauty and you have the budget for the right piece too.


yeti

10,523 posts

298 months

Monday 11th February 2013
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custodian said:
You'll have to explain the real value in a 40 year old Submariner to me, please. A rather ordinary watch which has attracted an artificially inflated collector's price tag
Sentimentality mainly if it's from the year of his birth. He's looking for a birthday present. Why do I have to explain the value of it to you? Are you going to explain the apprently-inflated value of an E-Type to me?

5513 as worn by Rog in the JB movies, issued to Royal Navy divers, lots of of famous period adverts, a lovely history. Non-date has a beautifully balanced face as well, coupled with faded matching Tritium lume on markers and hands and the reflection of the acrylic Tropic crystal all add up to a very attractive piece. 5513s are not mental money, though my cash would go on a 5512 anyway.

I bought and sold a DRSD 1665 which I regret bitterly now, just worried too much when wearing it. Hopefully I will own a 5512 someday.