Selling Submariner without box or papers?

[vilus]

Hi Guys. I've had a Submariner 16613 for quite a while sitting in my safe. I swore I would never sell it, but, having not worn it for ten years or so I am starting to think about it. A 1991/2 model purchased pre-owned from a reputable dealer in the USA in 1996. I wore it every day until 2003. It will need a refurb and service. The problem is having moved several times I don't have the box or papers. I did have the bill of sale but cannot find that since my last move. The watch is totally legit and can be checked out.

How much of a problem will I encounter selling a watch with no provenance? Also how much less would it be worth? All the dealer websites have an 'asking price' I would not consider any stupid offers, but what is realistic? Any advice would be gratefully received, thanks.

[PJ S]

You can buy the box and papers on ebay or an AD, but not the warranty card.
Obviously if you service it prior to sale, that receipt and 2 year warranty certificate will be well received.
Bottom line, not all buyers are put off by lack of B&P, just as not all sellers selling one without B&P is a crook or trying to fob off a fake – so don't worry about it.

[Zingari]

Service by Rolex will give you the 'credit card' 2yr guarantee which is as good as the original papers in my view.

Bad news is bi metal subs are not very popular - very last century and as such steel models sell for more. I think our US chums like them though.

[yeti]

I just sold my Explorer II without any papers; it did have the original box and the original hang tag with the correct serial on it, so like yours was totally legit, like a numpty I just lost the papers, somehow!!

Parted with it for about 400-500 less than I would have asked for a 'full set' watch. Which did however make it extremely attractive to those willing to take a slight risk, looking for a keeper or a cheap way into a nice stainless Rolex!