Rolex Daytona QUARTZ?
Discussion
I'm pretty sure Rolex put quartz movements into a couple of models a while ago. I think a Datejust and maybe a Ladies "Celini" (or similar).
But has anyone seen or heard of a quartz Daytona? A good friend, and someone who's opinion I have often valued, claims to have one, a REAL (quartz) one. (No, not something I'd be shouting from the roof-tops either!)
Having looked at it for the first time this week, before we even get to the movement, it just doesn't look right. Given that it's dirty and quite knocked about, - dings here and there round the bezel and case - it's harder to tell just by a quick glance. He's had it about 15 years, maybe even more.
I obviously don't want to challenge him without being as sure as I can, but I do want to stop making a fool of himself in front of others if there's absolutely no chance a quartz Daytona was ever made!
Anyone know with absolute certainity whether such a thing could be real and not a replica?
Thanks... Nick.
But has anyone seen or heard of a quartz Daytona? A good friend, and someone who's opinion I have often valued, claims to have one, a REAL (quartz) one. (No, not something I'd be shouting from the roof-tops either!)
Having looked at it for the first time this week, before we even get to the movement, it just doesn't look right. Given that it's dirty and quite knocked about, - dings here and there round the bezel and case - it's harder to tell just by a quick glance. He's had it about 15 years, maybe even more.
I obviously don't want to challenge him without being as sure as I can, but I do want to stop making a fool of himself in front of others if there's absolutely no chance a quartz Daytona was ever made!
Anyone know with absolute certainity whether such a thing could be real and not a replica?
Thanks... Nick.
TobyLaRohne said:
Google says no, but maybe its real and he just doesnt know its automatic?
Thanks but he would know it's automatic winding or not as he has another model that IS real and automatic. He claims to have chosen the "wrong" movement saying "people" (I presumed dealers etc) tell him "few customers want the quartz version". But apparently they don't tell him it's a replica/fake.Miguel Alvarez said:
Im no authority but I'd bet good money its not real. There are some rumored random combinations such as a day date quartz and a few other experiments that are in the Rolex vaults but unless he's lucked on the find of the century I'd go with it being fake.
Yep, when he told me about it a few years ago, I didn't really take too much notice or stop to think about it. It was only when I actually SAW it yesterday that I questioned the whole concept of a quartz Daytona. (I have a real one so the comparison was with a somewhat informed eye). What we really need here IS an authority on the subject!
Fake, is the impression I get from a little light research – wikipedia has a Daytona page, no mention of the word quartz within it.
The Rolex page has, but in reference to the Oysterquartz and late 60's, 70's time period for when their engineers first dabbled with it.
Certainly nothing I've seen, inc Chrono24 resale site, has Daytona with a quartz movement.
Your pal has been done over, even if was 15 years ago.
The Rolex page has, but in reference to the Oysterquartz and late 60's, 70's time period for when their engineers first dabbled with it.
Certainly nothing I've seen, inc Chrono24 resale site, has Daytona with a quartz movement.
Your pal has been done over, even if was 15 years ago.
Thanks to everyone for these opinions and information.
I think my pal HAS been royally done over IF he really paid what he told me he paid. Extremely unusual as he is very astute with money - made tons of it himself - and is a coin collector as well so would be on the look out for the real thing.
I think my pal HAS been royally done over IF he really paid what he told me he paid. Extremely unusual as he is very astute with money - made tons of it himself - and is a coin collector as well so would be on the look out for the real thing.
el stovey said:
Rolex never made a quartz Daytona. The Oysterquartz movement was used in Datejust models and Day-Date models.
Putting a quartz in a Daytona would require an entirely new quartz movement. That was just made for your friends watch.
I would agree entirely with El Stovey. Putting a quartz in a Daytona would require an entirely new quartz movement. That was just made for your friends watch.
My 2c.
Dominic H said:
el stovey said:
Rolex never made a quartz Daytona. The Oysterquartz movement was used in Datejust models and Day-Date models.
Putting a quartz in a Daytona would require an entirely new quartz movement. That was just made for your friends watch.
I would agree entirely with El Stovey. Putting a quartz in a Daytona would require an entirely new quartz movement. That was just made for your friends watch.
My 2c.
Any chance of a snap?
The reason it's quartz (and fake) is that there wasn't (and isn't?) a suitable, cheap automatic movement available for fake Daytonas thus fake automatic Daytonas don't have working chronograph functions in most cases (some may have one or two working sub dials) thus the quartz 'Daytona' was born. It's a fake.
Thanks again...
Thinking about it, they weren't going to source/produce a quartz movement with chronograph functions for just one model when Day/date and Datejust models exist (and were better mainstream sellers) and which would likely use the same quartz movements in both as their power source.
He is away now until Christmas but I'll speak to him when he's back. This is all very strange given the person I'm talking about!!
Thinking about it, they weren't going to source/produce a quartz movement with chronograph functions for just one model when Day/date and Datejust models exist (and were better mainstream sellers) and which would likely use the same quartz movements in both as their power source.
He is away now until Christmas but I'll speak to him when he's back. This is all very strange given the person I'm talking about!!
I suspect he has lucked on the on-off Daytona Quartz made for the winner of the 1988 Daytona 24 Hours.
They made one and then decided to stick with the original models, but somehow the prototype vanished (some say it was put into a skip and crushed like all other Rolex prototypes, others that someone 'saved' it and took it home) and it's never been seen since.
If it exists, the value is probably enough to buy him a Bugatti Veyron - One of the 18 cylinder versions
M.
They made one and then decided to stick with the original models, but somehow the prototype vanished (some say it was put into a skip and crushed like all other Rolex prototypes, others that someone 'saved' it and took it home) and it's never been seen since.
If it exists, the value is probably enough to buy him a Bugatti Veyron - One of the 18 cylinder versions
M.
marcosgt said:
I suspect he has lucked on the on-off Daytona Quartz made for the winner of the 1988 Daytona 24 Hours.
They made one and then decided to stick with the original models, but somehow the prototype vanished (some say it was put into a skip and crushed like all other Rolex prototypes, others that someone 'saved' it and took it home) and it's never been seen since.
If it exists, the value is probably enough to buy him a Bugatti Veyron - One of the 18 cylinder versions
M.
He will be thrilled to hear it and it makes breaking it all to him so much easier for me.... "I've got some bad news and some good news...." They made one and then decided to stick with the original models, but somehow the prototype vanished (some say it was put into a skip and crushed like all other Rolex prototypes, others that someone 'saved' it and took it home) and it's never been seen since.
If it exists, the value is probably enough to buy him a Bugatti Veyron - One of the 18 cylinder versions
M.
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