Thoughts on these two Rolexes (Sub Date and GMT 2)
Discussion
Not far from me and two watches I would like to own, the seller has had them both about a year. I haven't made an offer and probably won't. But I'd be interested to know what you guys think.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Submariner-GMT-Mas...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Submariner-GMT-Mas...
Edited by Eleven on Tuesday 10th December 07:51
Mr_C said:
If it were me I'd sell them separately.
can't imagine many wanting 2 such similar watches at the same time; you'd expect most fans to have one or the other already if they were after them.he's been honest about the bezel change and service history so sounds good enough if that's what you are after.
if it were a 'straight' pepsi i'd be after it individually as i want a late one on that bracelet.
still a handsome pair if that's what your after though.
Eleven said:
Hallam jewellers in Nottingham has a tidy 2006 model for £4750. Buy it before I do please.
I'd inspect it very closely though. They had an immaculate condition YM-I for silly money in there, I looked at mine which I consider ok but definitely 'worn' and it was in much better condition.I wonder what happened to their AP franchise? The PAM's and Porsches they used to have? Still have a fairly decent collection and always stop for a stare when in town
bobbybee said:
Eleven said:
Hallam jewellers in Nottingham has a tidy 2006 model for £4750. Buy it before I do please.
I'd inspect it very closely though. They had an immaculate condition YM-I for silly money in there, I looked at mine which I consider ok but definitely 'worn' and it was in much better condition.I wonder what happened to their AP franchise? The PAM's and Porsches they used to have? Still have a fairly decent collection and always stop for a stare when in town
Eleven said:
The main reason I haven't bought it is that it's been serviced outside of Rolex. The other thing that struck me about it was that it seemed light. However I haven't handled many and I was comparing it to a Sub.
There are any number of Rolex-trained watchmakers who can service a Rolex to the same standard as Rolex themselves.. I've owned one or other Rolex for 20 years and always had them done without a problem by people who know what they are doing (e.g. Russell Talerman, Swiss Watch Co, rather than wait up to six months for the watch to come back from Rolex. Servicing a Rolex movement is not rocket science. People have been working on them since 1905. In fact if you're got a valuable vintage Rollie the last place you want to send it is to Rolex. They'll replace all the bits that make it valuable!Much of the weight of the new GMT is the 'improved' bracelet. Personally I prefer the classic rattly stamped metal Oyster bracelet of old. Lighter and no welded parts to worry about.
If resale is an issue, I think the pre-2010 'classic' GMT's and Subs are gong to rise in value over a 10-year period more than the ceramic models.
Edited by audidoody on Thursday 12th December 10:47
Eleven said:
I've had a look at it. It's pretty much mint and has little bracelet stretch. The main reason I haven't bought it is that it's been serviced outside of Rolex. The other thing that struck me about it was that it seemed light. However I haven't handled many and I was comparing it to a Sub.
It is lighter if a little larger when wearing.Although the YM-I is stated officially as a 40mm, it does wear like a 41mm, not much in it, but 40mm is my upper limit without looking stupid, so I notice when its on.
It is lighter than a Sub or a Sub-Date, there's no expansion link in the clasp, only rated to 100m not 300m so the case is thinner as is the crystal. But due to the YM-I having a PT bezel that part weighs 4g more at 10g over the Sub SS bezel at 4g.
For a precious metal bezel on the YM-I it is fairly robust and it is fairly hard to scratch it, but be careful if ever polishing it up, the 'brushed' inlay can polish out shiny, an to refinish with service from RSC is around £650. a replacement bezel is well north of £1,000.
bobbybee said:
It is lighter if a little larger when wearing.
Although the YM-I is stated officially as a 40mm, it does wear like a 41mm, not much in it, but 40mm is my upper limit without looking stupid, so I notice when its on.
It is lighter than a Sub or a Sub-Date, there's no expansion link in the clasp, only rated to 100m not 300m so the case is thinner as is the crystal. But due to the YM-I having a PT bezel that part weighs 4g more at 10g over the Sub SS bezel at 4g.
For a precious metal bezel on the YM-I it is fairly robust and it is fairly hard to scratch it, but be careful if ever polishing it up, the 'brushed' inlay can polish out shiny, an to refinish with service from RSC is around £650. a replacement bezel is well north of £1,000.
Bobby have you been at the Christmas drinkies already? We're talking about the GMT 2, not YM.Although the YM-I is stated officially as a 40mm, it does wear like a 41mm, not much in it, but 40mm is my upper limit without looking stupid, so I notice when its on.
It is lighter than a Sub or a Sub-Date, there's no expansion link in the clasp, only rated to 100m not 300m so the case is thinner as is the crystal. But due to the YM-I having a PT bezel that part weighs 4g more at 10g over the Sub SS bezel at 4g.
For a precious metal bezel on the YM-I it is fairly robust and it is fairly hard to scratch it, but be careful if ever polishing it up, the 'brushed' inlay can polish out shiny, an to refinish with service from RSC is around £650. a replacement bezel is well north of £1,000.
Eleven said:
Bobby have you been at the Christmas drinkies already? We're talking about the GMT 2, not YM.
Yes, yes I haveSimply ignore the bezel parts of my previous comments, the case and bracelet comments are still true, the GMT doesn't have the expansion link, the case and crystal are thinner as only rated to 100m and the crown is twin-lock not trip-lock. Hence a similar sized and looking watch but lighter
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