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Martin_M

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2,071 posts

258 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Firstly, a big thank you to those of you who contributed to my thread asking about what Rolex to buy for £2500. Having visited the Argyle Arcade again today, I tried on an Air King which, as some people advised on here, is just too small for my wrist. I am now prepared to spend up to £3350 which was the asking price for the Air King.

As I perused the offerings from each jeweller within the Arcade, I really felt quite overwhelmed by the sheer choice and variety of luxury watch makers.

I found myself drawn to the models which are that bit bigger and from the makers I can remember, I was drawn to Raymond Weil, Breitling, Oris, Longines and Bell and Ross but it's all Swahili to me!

I would love to get something that feels special when I wear it but that will retain a good chunk of it's value when I come to sell. I've actually just sold my 7 year old Tag F1 Chrono for £250 less than what it cost new so I really want something that will hold its value.

Any input welcome - watch hunting is a minefield!

GoBig

377 posts

204 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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How about something like this...

http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/tudor/watches/chrono...

You can get them with a black face too, will probably be my next purchase.

Neil is good to buy from too.

ETA Black faced...

http://www.watches.co.uk/watch/14346s/tudor-herita...

Edited by GoBig on Monday 30th December 18:18

z4chris99

12,538 posts

210 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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just get a sub and be done with it... it's the best all rounder for the money

Quinny

15,941 posts

297 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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That Tudor is a good call....yes.... Buy one on a bracelet, get a leather strap and have 2 watches for the price of one.

andy tims

5,606 posts

277 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Best currently available sub alternative

Tudor Pelagos



or an older Snowflake Sub


hilly10

7,543 posts

259 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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I would have that Snowflake in an heartbeat

Spice_Weasel

2,368 posts

284 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Andy beat me to it - the Tudor Pelagos is the Sub alternative I'd recommend.

bitchstewie

68,392 posts

241 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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I'd have said a Sub is always a good choice. Rolex's annual price increase tends to mean that if you buy wisely they appreciate.

dom9

8,678 posts

240 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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New Tudor Black Bay or Pelagos from Iconic - Such lovely pieces and still Rolex-related!

yeti

10,704 posts

306 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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I'll third the Pelagos; it's an extremely simple watch, uber stealth, almost bland... But oozes class. But it's not for everyone!

Took a pal to Watchfinder to look at one and he preferred a Breitling SuperOcean Abyss II. Apart from the polished case, it was a beautifully made watch.

OP, consider the SuperOcean Heritage range if not mentioned before. Or a second hand Planet Ocean if you want to retain value. Both of those models chronographs are in your range if you like that.

I lolz'd at you losing £250 on a watch... It's possible to lose many, many thousands in that way, especially if you buy new!

tickious

1,401 posts

205 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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Are Tudor relaunching in the UK next year?

CardShark

4,264 posts

210 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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hilly10 said:
I would have that Snowflake in an heartbeat
Same here cloud9

CardShark

4,264 posts

210 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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tickious said:
Are Tudor relaunching in the UK next year?
The rumour mill says yes. My local Goldsmith's wouldn't confirm it a month or so ago when I asked, but they didn't exactly deny it either.

westberks

1,461 posts

166 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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CardShark said:
tickious said:
Are Tudor relaunching in the UK next year?
The rumour mill says yes. My local Goldsmith's wouldn't confirm it a month or so ago when I asked, but they didn't exactly deny it either.
bound to, dealt with the US this year which has been a success and the UK can't be far behind.

Tudor a great shout for a stealth brand which offers great value and a heritage to boot.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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z4chris99 said:
just get a sub and be done with it...
yes

tigerkoi

2,927 posts

229 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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[At Martin M]

What style of watch do you like the look of the most? Diver/Pilot/Sports? Do you want something 'dressy' or an all-rounder?

The Air King is a very nice watch and there's something about it's simplicity that means its been a popular model for decades.

If you are looking at other brands, then I echo what others have said - Tudor is most certainly worth a look. One issue is that you'll be pushed to see one in the 'flesh' as it were in the UK, as others have pointed out, but do look online. Check out the Black Bay, the Pelagos and maybe the Heritage Chrono. They are getting all the rave reviews in the watchmaking press, and there's probably not a hotter brand out there right now. You may need to take a quick trip over to Amsterdam or Paris, but that's no hardship! Pop over for a romantic weekend, and mope around Rue de la Paix/Rue Danielle Casanova....

If I'm honest I don't follow closely what watches retain value and what don't. I do read with fascination on here and places like watchuseek, about 'flipping' and what people are going to get next. But that's a watch collectors game. My own view is, if you're making a purchase on something that will have to stand the test of time, and you want to treasure it a bit, something personal, then only get something that you like, not what it could be worth in a few years time.

Saying that I bought a Tudor Big Block from Selfridges a few years back. Thought nothing more about it over the years, just enjoyed it. But idling around Chrono24.com the other day, I've noticed that people will easily throw 4/5k at me to part with it. Two and half times what the receipt said it was worth. But that's an irrelevance as I like it, and I want to keep it.

There are some watches a gent just can't go wrong with - Planet Ocean, Speedmaster, Submariner. But, depending on the industry you're in or the company you keep they'll also be the most ubiquitous things you will see on others wrists. We are all different, but I do enjoy wearing things that maybe other people may not instantly recognise. Maybe I'm strange smile

However, if I was at square one, had an empty watch box, and wanted a nice, solid all-rounder that presented itself well, then a Planet Ocean (42m, 46m), a Breitling Navitimer 01 or most likely a Tudor Heritage Chrono would be my first port of call:






Edited by tigerkoi on Monday 30th December 22:25

huwp

833 posts

206 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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CardShark said:
The rumour mill says yes. My local Goldsmith's wouldn't confirm it a month or so ago when I asked, but they didn't exactly deny it either.
I have it on very good authority that Tudor will re-launch in 2014.


aea730

370 posts

226 months

Monday 30th December 2013
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My local Goldsmiths have confirmed March 2014 ish and are happy to take a deposit on a heritage chrono based on March delivery. Only thing is they will work out about £500 more than ADs in Europe

Slagathore

6,225 posts

223 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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aea730 said:
My local Goldsmiths have confirmed March 2014 ish and are happy to take a deposit on a heritage chrono based on March delivery. Only thing is they will work out about £500 more than ADs in Europe
http://www.orologidilusso.biz/orologi-di-lusso-usa...

Found them through Chrono24 and ordered a Tudor.

Watch was fine, and the price is probably as cheap as you'll find.

I'll be interested to see what the ADs are charging next year for the Tudor range.

adaptive

842 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st December 2013
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No love for the Black Bay?