How much value does original box and papers add?
How much value does original box and papers add?
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RichB

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56,455 posts

315 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Looking at spending about £2,500 on a late 90s JLC. Prices for the specific model vary quite widely up and down by about 1k but I wondered how much value one puts on having the original box, manual/handbook and papers? I just put them in an inaccessible part of my wardrobe to collect dust and my view is that if I ever sell the watch then I'll get less but then I'll have paid less. But I wondered what the collectors on here think?
p.s. It's a Reverso.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

296 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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about £500from a standalone watch to one with box and papers imo

Du1point8

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223 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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So many queries... on older watches people discarded the box and papers and its only recent thing (last 10 years or so) that people are asking for them, so if its 30 year old watch I guess you can get away with it.

If new(ish) and paying anything above £500 and absolutely if over £1k... it must have all papers and the box without question.

I wouldnt entertain one without a box unless at a substantial discount as the warranty and the service history adds a lot of value to your watch makes its 100% legit and authentic.

Actual value is hard and would say maybe 10-15%, but can be a lot more.

RichB

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Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Interesting, well as I say it's a late 90s model so approx. 15 years old. reason I ask is that I am trying to negotiate the price down on one because it's not got the box and papers wink

michael gould

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272 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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mrdemon said:
about £500from a standalone watch to one with box and papers imo
what so a watch worth £300 without papers is worth £800 with ?

RichB

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Tuesday 18th February 2014
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michael gould said:
mrdemon said:
about £500from a standalone watch to one with box and papers imo
what so a watch worth £300 without papers is worth £800 with ?
I assume based on the fact that I said it's a 2.5k watch

GCH

4,141 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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Doesnt bother me in the slightest. It is expected not to have them with vintage pieces.

Is this the same variant you were after before? Just about to pull the trigger on the same model myself smile



Edited by GCH on Tuesday 18th February 19:27

mrdemon

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Tuesday 18th February 2014
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michael gould said:
what so a watch worth £300 without papers is worth £800 with ?
I was thinking out loud and only thinking about the higher end brands where entry is 3k any way.

Omega, Rolex, JLC, IWC etc etc most watches now are way above 5k let alone 3k and it seems £500 is what box and papers are worth on these models which are 10 years or newer.

RichB

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GCH said:
Is this the same variant you were after before? Just about to pull the trigger on the same model myself smile
Yes indeed, the GT version this time. wink I eventually got refunded by the vendor who incorrectly listed the previous one. Hope we're not chasing the same one laugh PM me if you want.

GCH

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233 months

Tuesday 18th February 2014
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RichB said:
es indeed, the GT version this time. wink I eventually got refunded by the vendor who incorrectly listed the previous one. Hope we're not chasing the same one laugh PM me if you want.
Yes, i had the same thought rotate
Which country is your vendor in? You want the deployment iirc, which i dont....