new to watches buy I'd welcome your thoughts on speedmaster
new to watches buy I'd welcome your thoughts on speedmaster
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andymc

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7,626 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I posted yesterday about the speedy Schumacher and took some good advice, I came across this one

https://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/schumacher-speed...

on chrono24 and I am aware there will be cheaper it's just I feel safer with a UK store, could i trouble you ask to your thoughts on the watch and price please?


Does the Schumacher offer anything over and above the other speedmasters?

regards

Andy

alfaman

6,416 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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That special edition is rather an acquired taste - ... What's the chequered golf ball doing on the face?!

The normal speedy moonwatch looks better IMO - and wasn't designed by stevie wonder ..

PJ S

10,842 posts

258 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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alfaman said:
That special edition is rather an acquired taste - ... What's the chequered golf ball doing on the face?!

The normal speedy moonwatch looks better IMO - and wasn't designed by stevie wonder ..
Chequered flag, for the sub-dial – rest of dial is carbon fibre.
It's an Omega, it's (yet another) Speedie…..<yawn>, and you're buying it for the wrong reason(s) if you are worrying about other people's opinions/perceptions of it.
It's your money, your wrist, and your eyes – that's all that ever matters aside from any issues from a reliability/serviceability point of view.

It's still a dime-a-dozen Speedie, no matter how you look at it, even with the lesser common face.

ADP68

528 posts

202 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I like it! I like these in general.

benny.c

3,797 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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I don't know how much research you've done, but that Schumacher Speedy is not based on the "classic" Speedy moon watch but rather the Speedmaster "Reduced". It may not be an issue but that means it has the smaller 39mm dia case, not the normal 42mm. If you prefer the regular sized Speedy, they did another Racing model that has the 42mm case. I owned one a while back and it is a little more subtle than the Schumacher edition.






andymc

Original Poster:

7,626 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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very little research as im new to all this, so speedmaster reduced is inferior?

andymc

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7,626 posts

238 months

Tuesday 29th April 2014
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yeti

10,703 posts

306 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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andymc said:
very little research as im new to all this, so speedmaster reduced is inferior?
No. There's a full sized 42mm moon watch which for many is the one and only Speedmaster Professional as certified by NASA (hesalite, handwound). Then there are others like the reduced automatic, the Schumachers and umpteen other editions. You buy what you want, not what we tell you!

benny.c

3,797 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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Its certainly inferior when it comes to popularity but that does make it cheaper. As the dial is smaller it can look a little more cluttered to some people. There is a brief article here:

http://chronomaddox.com/speedy_reduced.html

I'm not really up to speed on the special edition reduced pricing but the normal reduced models seem to be around £800 for a private sale. There is a red Schumie one on Chrono24 for less than £800. 

https://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/omega-speedmaste...

I think I'm right in saying that the yellow one if shipped from Switzerland will attract VAT as it will be imported from outside the EU. 

Edited by benny.c on Wednesday 30th April 00:19

tobinen

10,423 posts

176 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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I quite like the one in the OP, never knew it existed.


andymc

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7,626 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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yeti said:
andymc said:
very little research as im new to all this, so speedmaster reduced is inferior?
No. There's a full sized 42mm moon watch which for many is the one and only Speedmaster Professional as certified by NASA (hesalite, handwound). Then there are others like the reduced automatic, the Schumachers and umpteen other editions. You buy what you want, not what we tell you!
Thanks for the reply Yeti, I appreciate its down to my choice but my concern is I buy a total lemon and then come back on here and get told I should have asked, the spread of prices seems strange and somewhat baffling

yeti

10,703 posts

306 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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andymc said:
my concern is I buy a total lemon and then come back on here and get told I should have asked
laugh You;re right, that would happen and does frequently!

If you buy a manual wind hesalite crystal Professional, you've got the one that everyone wants. However, if it's not what you want, there are no bad choices reallyin the line up.

andymc

Original Poster:

7,626 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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yeti said:
andymc said:
my concern is I buy a total lemon and then come back on here and get told I should have asked
laugh You;re right, that would happen and does frequently!

If you buy a manual wind hesalite crystal Professional, you've got the one that everyone wants. However, if it's not what you want, there are no bad choices reallyin the line up.
PH where protocol matters, thanks for the input yeti I shall continue to search

marcosgt

11,506 posts

207 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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If you like any of the Speedmaster variants, you'll not get a Lemon.

They're all good quaility, Omega watches, but for many (and I'll admit I'm one) the 'manual wind, hesalite' 42mm version is the only one to have.

Of course, there are those who say my late '90s 861, non-stepped dial one is rubbish and I should have spent twice as much getting a 'pre-moon' - You'll never please everyone, so, as Yeti said, just please yourself smile

M.

andymc

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7,626 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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cheers, this seller on ebay has a few:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/jmryshi?_trksid=p2047675....

what is the import duty from the states?

yeti

10,703 posts

306 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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andymc said:
what is the import duty from the states?
20% I think. Unless the quality/price is stunning, there are plenty in the UK/Europe.

marcosgt

11,506 posts

207 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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They look dear to me, if you're taken a 'sight-unseen' punt on a watch from the US.

You might as well pay a couple of hundred more (or maybe not!) for one from a UK watch dealer you can see the watch at first and return it to if there are any issues, imo.

M.

Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 30th April 12:25

andymc

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7,626 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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marcosgt said:
They look dear to me, if you're taken a 'sight-unseen' punt on a watch from the US.

You might as well pay a couple of hundred more (or maybe not!) for one from a UK watch dealer you can see the watch at first and return it to if there are any issues, imo.

M.

Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 30th April 12:25
Cheers M, who would you recommend?

jshell

12,107 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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yeti said:
andymc said:
my concern is I buy a total lemon and then come back on here and get told I should have asked
laugh You;re right, that would happen and does frequently!

If you buy a manual wind hesalite crystal Professional, you've got the one that everyone wants. However, if it's not what you want, there are no bad choices reallyin the line up.
..or you buy manual wind, saphire and with a decent WR where you can, if you like, actually go swimming with it!