Rolex Pepsi 16750R and 16700

[supercommuter]

I am looking to buy a Pepsi dial GMT finally and I am confused about the values of them

I want a 'newer' looking watch and not the faded dial, which seems to be quite popular.

The seem to range from £6k all the way up to £15-20k, is there any reading I can do on this to understand the values and why they command such different prices?

Sorry for the newb question

For example

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/222735836198

Vs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/222735836198

And

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/232582159778

I am not looking to make money on it. I will be keeping it for a long time. But don't get the values

Edited by supercommuter on Thursday 4th January 23:18

[dimots]

Prices are very fluid for various sensible reasons like condition, and various silly geeky reasons like faded dials.

I bought a faded old 1675 for quite a lot more than it’s probably worth because I thought it looked good. There’s no accounting for taste.

[dimots]

Of the three you posted above two are with box only and one is full set (box papers etc). Wouldn’t matter to me, but your opinion may differ.

Resale is supposedly easier with full set, and if you are collecting as a hobby it makes a better collectible. To wear though, no difference.

[Crockefeller]

Is there any reason you aren't looking at th GMT II, 16710? Same look but independent hour hand. May give you some more choice.

I think some people worry too much about box and papers. Yes, they're harder to sell without, but then you should save money when buying. You can't wear a box and papers, and you can buy a box separately for £100 if you wish.

As Dimots says, it's only when you are buying something out of the ordinary that you should be paying more than say, £7.5k.

One of the problems you have is that a very heavily worn rolex can be polished up to look like new. Ideally you want that looks like new because someone kept it in the safe for 10 years

[rat840771]

The problem with the OLD GMT and the sea-dweller i have is the bracelet. My SD bracelet ins't too worn but hollow links and pressed steel clasp is crap for a 7k watch.

The new GMT has solid links and a proper clasp.

[supercommuter]

Crockefeller said:

Is there any reason you aren't looking at th GMT II, 16710? Same look but independent hour hand. May give you some more choice.

I think some people worry too much about box and papers. Yes, they're harder to sell without, but then you should save money when buying. You can't wear a box and papers, and you can buy a box separately for £100 if you wish.

As Dimots says, it's only when you are buying something out of the ordinary that you should be paying more than say, £7.5k.

One of the problems you have is that a very heavily worn rolex can be polished up to look like new. Ideally you want that looks like new because someone kept it in the safe for 10 years

I don't care what model number it is really. As long as it has the pepsi dial from new and has not had the dial replaced, although I am unsure how you can tell!

I will continue my hunt. I do not care about the box and papers as long as there is some way of me obtaining proof the watch is genuine before purchase. The watch is going to be worn in rotation with other watches, so won't be sat there unworn.

[dimots]

Just buy the most original watch you can for your money. Look out for signs of excessive polishing (e.g. thin lugs) and for replacement parts like bezel, hands and dial. It can be very hard to spot replacement parts, particularly in a photo. I guess it's somewhat less likely with this model because there are plenty around, but if the dial is at all out of alignment (I find I can usually spot this on the date window where it is magnified) or it claims to have any kind of rare dial you should be suspicious. Don't think you can tell for sure without being a proper expert and taking the dial out but be aware that eBay is among the most risky territory to buy from.

If you have £7.5k to spend this one is very nice.

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/vintage-gmt-maste...

[Dominic H]

dimots said:

Just buy the most original watch you can for your money. Look out for signs of excessive polishing (e.g. thin lugs) and for replacement parts like bezel, hands and dial. It can be very hard to spot replacement parts, particularly in a photo. I guess it's somewhat less likely with this model because there are plenty around, but if the dial is at all out of alignment (I find I can usually spot this on the date window where it is magnified) or it claims to have any kind of rare dial you should be suspicious. Don't think you can tell for sure without being a proper expert and taking the dial out but be aware that eBay is among the most risky territory to buy from.

If you have £7.5k to spend this one is very nice.

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/vintage-gmt-maste...

Nice replacement dial and hands.

[supercommuter]

Dominic H said:

dimots said:

Just buy the most original watch you can for your money. Look out for signs of excessive polishing (e.g. thin lugs) and for replacement parts like bezel, hands and dial. It can be very hard to spot replacement parts, particularly in a photo. I guess it's somewhat less likely with this model because there are plenty around, but if the dial is at all out of alignment (I find I can usually spot this on the date window where it is magnified) or it claims to have any kind of rare dial you should be suspicious. Don't think you can tell for sure without being a proper expert and taking the dial out but be aware that eBay is among the most risky territory to buy from.

If you have £7.5k to spend this one is very nice.

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/vintage-gmt-maste...

Nice replacement dial and hands.

Dominic - Please can you let me know if you get one in

[Dominic H]

supercommuter said:

Dominic H said:

dimots said:

Just buy the most original watch you can for your money. Look out for signs of excessive polishing (e.g. thin lugs) and for replacement parts like bezel, hands and dial. It can be very hard to spot replacement parts, particularly in a photo. I guess it's somewhat less likely with this model because there are plenty around, but if the dial is at all out of alignment (I find I can usually spot this on the date window where it is magnified) or it claims to have any kind of rare dial you should be suspicious. Don't think you can tell for sure without being a proper expert and taking the dial out but be aware that eBay is among the most risky territory to buy from.

If you have £7.5k to spend this one is very nice.

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/vintage-gmt-maste...

Nice replacement dial and hands.

Dominic - Please can you let me know if you get one in

Will do. In the meantime, this is a good review of the GMT Master history.

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/

[dimots]

Dominic H said:

Nice replacement dial and hands.

Haha oh yeah it’s 85...Oh well I like the white gold dial

[nikaiyo2]

supercommuter said:

I am looking to buy a Pepsi dial GMT finally and I am confused about the values of them

I want a 'newer' looking watch and not the faded dial, which seems to be quite popular.

The seem to range from £6k all the way up to £15-20k, is there any reading I can do on this to understand the values and why they command such different prices?

Sorry for the newb question

For example

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/222735836198

Vs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/222735836198

And

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/232582159778

I am not looking to make money on it. I will be keeping it for a long time. But don't get the values

Edited by supercommuter on Thursday 4th January 23:18

I think link 1 and 2 are same watch also the 3rd one has a replacement dial.

If you are not planning to use the GMT function the GMT Master is usually a few hundred £ less than the 11.

http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Rolex/GMT%20Master/16...

Or pay a few £ more for something really really nice

http://www.cartermarsh.com/product/rolex-gmt-pepsi...

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Friday 5th January 17:56