Still undervalued? Vintage Omega content

[Vvroom]

The Cal 861 versions are cheaper the the 321 and this example with it's original, or at least period, bracelet is £2500. Picture is the sellers (will remove if necessary).

Great movement which commands a massive premium in the speedy version. Also, I think these are a poor man's pre Daytona... just me?

Lovely thing at 35mm and they often show up in superb condition. I saw one today with a lizard strap for £2k.

I think they're cheap and have a way to go to reach their max value. Thoughts you lot?

[dom9]

That's lovely! Very 'pre-Daytona', as you say... I suspect they'll never appreciate to those dizzying heights though.

Off to the web for a look!

Edited to add: where are they all hiding? Links please!

Edited by dom9 on Monday 5th February 21:06

[GCH]

They have been somewhat under the rader for some time... black dialled versions look better too.

[Vvroom]

Good point, rare to see a black dial too.

[mikeveal]

I'd say that the price reflects its value, maybe a bit on the high side if anything. No name chronos start around £500. Should an Omega be worth five times that? I think probably that's pushing it a bit, especially when you compare with the cost of de ville without the chrono.

If you're looking for vintage Omegas that are under priced, I'd say the Cosmic, anything with a hummer, some of the De Ville range like the thick crystal for instance.
Dynamics used to be a bargain, they seem to be on the up and up.

[Vvroom]

Interesting. I'm still trying to make my mind up about the value proposition here.

The tissot seastar Chronos are lovely, have a great lemania movement and a good one, if you can find it, will be £1500 or there abouts. I'm talking about a condition similar to the omega pictured above. Against that background the £2k for the omega with a more balanced design in my view doesn't look at all bad.

The majority of cosmics are an odd shape aren't they? As we know from the 70s chronos we see, such as the tissot seamaster navigator, and later heuers, their value has always been lower than their rounded case peers.

[Vvroom]

^ ps, I say this as a man with 2 odd shaped watches in the fold





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[dom9]

Any links to the one pictured or others for sale?

[NotNormal]

Vvroom said:

^ ps, I say this as a man with 2 odd shaped watches in the fold

Funny this should just pop up. Dad recently dug out his Chronostop from hiding which he purchased new back as a teenager. His is a grey, non-date and has the same strap option as yours. It's currently getting a refurbish and should be back in a few weeks. Not sure how common they are but don't seem to see many about.

[Vvroom]

NotNormal said:

Funny this should just pop up. Dad recently dug out his Chronostop from hiding which he purchased new back as a teenager. His is a grey, non-date and has the same strap option as yours. It's currently getting a refurbish and should be back in a few weeks. Not sure how common they are but don't seem to see many about.

There are regularly a handful of them on eBay including, every so often, a grey dialled one like your father's. There doesn't seem to be a massive variation in price of the different dial colours, nor much of a difference between the date and non-date versions. Here again is perhaps another undervalued range. Each of them, date and non-date, has it's own movement which is not utilised elsewhere. All for a few hundred quid in today's money!

[anonymous-user]

I think they are lovely but 35mm will restrict the market for the forseeable - blokes now prefer a larger watch with even 40mm being seen as on the smaller side now.


I regularly wear a 36mm watch but have seen them described as effete on hear.

[cherryowen]

desolate said:

I regularly wear a 36mm watch but have seen them described as effete on hear.

Wow



My 18 year old RW dress watch is probably no more than 30mm, and I love it for its slim profile and discrete size. Horses for courses, I suppose.

[AlleyCat]

desolate said:

I think they are lovely but 35mm will restrict the market for the forseeable - blokes now prefer a larger watch with even 40mm being seen as on the smaller side now.


I regularly wear a 36mm watch but have seen them described as effete on hear.

You can get the Chronostops in 40mm like mine, I also very recently bought a Cosmic 2000 which is in a normal round shape case. Edited to add I just realised you were talking about the de ville this whole topic is about haha

The Omegas Ive had experience with are absolutely lovely to wear, and keep excellent time despite not being Chronometers.

Chronostop below

[Ari]

Vvroom said:

I think they're cheap and have a way to go to reach their max value. Thoughts you lot?

Cheap compared to what though? A Rolex? Maybe but (rightly or wrongly) I think it's unlikely that secondhand Omega values will ever get near to Rolex.

£2,000+ for a 36mm admittedly nice watch from a good brand, seems 'all the money' to me.

[CAPP0]

The advert is absurdly wordy (you'll need at least one mug of coffee) but I'm very tempted by this as a daily beater:

http://www.vintage-watches-collection.com/watch/om...

I have a SMP but I don't wear that every day. This seems a complete bargain, or am I having the wool pulled over my eyes? I don't know how big/small it is either.

[anonymous-user]

CAPP0 said:

The advert is absurdly wordy (you'll need at least one mug of coffee) but I'm very tempted by this as a daily beater:

http://www.vintage-watches-collection.com/watch/om...

I have a SMP but I don't wear that every day. This seems a complete bargain, or am I having the wool pulled over my eyes? I don't know how big/small it is either.

Great patina - I'd imagine it would at least double if it was mechanical.

[Vvroom]

Ari said:

Vvroom said:

I think they're cheap and have a way to go to reach their max value. Thoughts you lot?

Cheap compared to what though?

The contemporary Speedy with the same movement. And I think these are better looking. I’ve had 2 speedys and have never really got what the fuss is.

Oh and these are 35mm

[RichB]

AlleyCat said:

You can get the Chronostops in 40mm like mine...

To my eyes that demonstrates why these big watches don't work. It overlaps your wrist rather than sitting on it.

[David A]

CAPP0 said:

The advert is absurdly wordy (you'll need at least one mug of coffee) but I'm very tempted by this as a daily beater:

http://www.vintage-watches-collection.com/watch/om...

I have a SMP but I don't wear that every day. This seems a complete bargain, or am I having the wool pulled over my eyes? I don't know how big/small it is either.

What’s the general opinion of prices on that site ? There’s a couple on there that I’m feeling impulse buy time.

[iangrier]

Here's my Omega. I got it for my 13th birthday in 1973. I was on a stolen motorbike in 1975, which we (I was pillion) crashed and my watch got smashed. I didn't want my folks to know about my watch or the motorbike, so I sold the watch to a classmate for £20 and said to my folks that it had been stolen. My mate emigrated to Japan in 1977. We stayed in touch and he came back to the UK in 2016. I asked about the watch and he said an ex-girlfriend had stolen it from him in the 2000s (something to do with revenge for her catching him being intimate with her sister). He hadn't seen the girl for nearly 10 years, but he did have an old e-mail address for her. I got in touch with her and played the sentimental card; "The watch was a 13th birthday present from my dear Granny who passed away some years ago and I miss her every day" (you know the sort of line). The ex-girlfriend was living in Vietnam and said she thought she still had the watch in a drawer somewhere and would send it to me if she could find it. I didn't hold out much hope. Two weeks later, it popped though my letterbox in a battered jiffy bag. A trip to Omega for a very expensive full restoration followed and it was back in my hands four months later. I've never worn it since I got it back - but gave it directly to my son and told him that if he was ever on a stolen motorbike, to take the watch off and put it in his jacket pocket.