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I’ve been looking for a GMT. Whilst the Rolex is lovely I’m already considering an Explorer and tbh this will be a daily. For a while I’ve admired the SAR, almost bought one but now thought to look at their GMT?
I’m pretty much sold on it. Just wanted to ask anyone have any negative experiences with them?
Thanks.
I’m pretty much sold on it. Just wanted to ask anyone have any negative experiences with them?
Thanks.
jules_s said:
Blimey their website is hard work!!
I quite like it tbh - the countdown bezel is a nice change if you intend to use it
I quite like it tbh - the countdown bezel is a nice change if you intend to use it
Absolutely!It's Ti, looks like it was made to take some knocks, GMT, and something a bit left field. And, not crazy prices, but first world problems etc
One thing to be aware of - I see it has an ETA movement, so it may not be a "true" GMT with a jumping hour hand.
I think with the ETA movements, it is the GMT hand that can "jump" in one hour increments.
If so it will affect its functionality - with a true GMT when you go abroad you can adjust the hour hand independently of the other hands - so the hour hand shows the local time and the GMT the home time.
It's a bit more of a faff to do this when it is the GMT hand that jumps.
This may not be an issue for you but for me it is the whole point of a GMT complication. I think Omega and Seiko GMT movements have jumping hour hands...
I think with the ETA movements, it is the GMT hand that can "jump" in one hour increments.
If so it will affect its functionality - with a true GMT when you go abroad you can adjust the hour hand independently of the other hands - so the hour hand shows the local time and the GMT the home time.
It's a bit more of a faff to do this when it is the GMT hand that jumps.
This may not be an issue for you but for me it is the whole point of a GMT complication. I think Omega and Seiko GMT movements have jumping hour hands...
I guess it depends on why you want a second time zone function.
If you're staying in one time zone and just want to keep track of a second time zone, it doesn't really make any odds whether it's the GMT hand or the hour hand that jumps.
If you're staying in one time zone and, want to keep track of a succession of different time zones (say you're keeping in touch with a relative travelling on a gap year or something) then a jumping GMT hand is less of a faff.
If you're travelling yourself from time zone to time zone then, you're right, a 'true' GMT with a jumping hour hand makes more sense.
And if you just fancy a GMT because you have a gap in your collection, then just choose the model you like!
Nice Muhle, by the way.
If you're staying in one time zone and just want to keep track of a second time zone, it doesn't really make any odds whether it's the GMT hand or the hour hand that jumps.
If you're staying in one time zone and, want to keep track of a succession of different time zones (say you're keeping in touch with a relative travelling on a gap year or something) then a jumping GMT hand is less of a faff.
If you're travelling yourself from time zone to time zone then, you're right, a 'true' GMT with a jumping hour hand makes more sense.
And if you just fancy a GMT because you have a gap in your collection, then just choose the model you like!
Nice Muhle, by the way.
funinhounslow said:
One thing to be aware of - I see it has an ETA movement, so it may not be a "true" GMT with a jumping hour hand.
I think with the ETA movements, it is the GMT hand that can "jump" in one hour increments.
If so it will affect its functionality - with a true GMT when you go abroad you can adjust the hour hand independently of the other hands - so the hour hand shows the local time and the GMT the home time.
It's a bit more of a faff to do this when it is the GMT hand that jumps.
This may not be an issue for you but for me it is the whole point of a GMT complication. I think Omega and Seiko GMT movements have jumping hour hands...
Thanks for that, absolutely that’s what I would like. I’ll stick with the SAR and keep searching for a GMT I think with the ETA movements, it is the GMT hand that can "jump" in one hour increments.
If so it will affect its functionality - with a true GMT when you go abroad you can adjust the hour hand independently of the other hands - so the hour hand shows the local time and the GMT the home time.
It's a bit more of a faff to do this when it is the GMT hand that jumps.
This may not be an issue for you but for me it is the whole point of a GMT complication. I think Omega and Seiko GMT movements have jumping hour hands...
O/P Have you looked at Steinhart, they have a range of GMT watches, some very similar to Rolex but they also sell an Ocean 1 GMT in black which is very tempting...
https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/ocean-1gmt-blac...
https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/ocean-1gmt-blac...
I like Grand Seiko alot.
I looked at the previous GS GMT spring drive watches and wanted to like them but was put off by the sapphire crystal bezels which gave the whole watch an overly reflective / shiny look.
I bought a GS Spring Drive diver instead, which I love and which is by some distance the nicest watch I have.
These new GMTs (there are three - black, blue and green) are much closer to what I was looking for back then, compared to the older GMT.
They are probably a bit dressier than their Rolex or Omega equivalents, but in terms of quality (movement, accuracy, finishing etc etc) they will be unimpeachable.
Also, if you haven't looked into the Spring Drive movement, it's worth a quick youtube - it's amazing.
I looked at the previous GS GMT spring drive watches and wanted to like them but was put off by the sapphire crystal bezels which gave the whole watch an overly reflective / shiny look.
I bought a GS Spring Drive diver instead, which I love and which is by some distance the nicest watch I have.
These new GMTs (there are three - black, blue and green) are much closer to what I was looking for back then, compared to the older GMT.
They are probably a bit dressier than their Rolex or Omega equivalents, but in terms of quality (movement, accuracy, finishing etc etc) they will be unimpeachable.
Also, if you haven't looked into the Spring Drive movement, it's worth a quick youtube - it's amazing.
ddom said:
Thanks for that, absolutely that’s what I would like. I’ll stick with the SAR and keep searching for a GMT
Ok. The Mido Ocean Star GMT has a ‘proper’ GMT movement. Recently released. https://twobrokewatchsnobs.com/mido-ocean-star-gmt...
ddom said:
Ok, so what can the collective knowledge tell me about the Grand Seiko SBGE253. Severe budget creep but I admire the brand and it’s still half the price of the Rolex?
That is an absolutely wonderful watch and would be top of my list if I could buy a watch in that price range. The previous version of this had some criticism for excessive thickness so that might be something to bear in mind. The spring drive sweeping second hand is mesmerising...Edited by ddom on Friday 11th September 20:21
If you can live with quartz, Grand Seiko and Longines do some very nice pieces. And there’s also the Tudor BB GMT which gets a lot of praise on here.
But that GS pictured is quite something. Plus no silly games at the dealer and you can wear it out and about confident it won’t attract unwelcome attention...
Edited by funinhounslow on Saturday 12th September 09:47
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