Help me choose.. Tudor, Speedmaster or used Oyster?
Discussion
Hi guys,
Decided I'd like a forever watch to commemorate my Daughter and her 1st birthday etc to remember a time and place
Thus far, theses are in consideration:
- Speedmaster Moonwatch
- Seamaster 300 Steel On steel
- Black bay
- 2002 Oyster Perpetual Precision with a blue sunburst dial (arabic numerals etc)
It will be a forever watch and likely my only 'Nice Watch' (Im not hugely into them (yet)) and will be worn every day, swam with, tooled with etc
Whats the better watch? Id like to know there is a decent movement etc and it wont let me down
Also, should i be looking at different models of the same brands?
Decided I'd like a forever watch to commemorate my Daughter and her 1st birthday etc to remember a time and place
Thus far, theses are in consideration:
- Speedmaster Moonwatch
- Seamaster 300 Steel On steel
- Black bay
- 2002 Oyster Perpetual Precision with a blue sunburst dial (arabic numerals etc)
It will be a forever watch and likely my only 'Nice Watch' (Im not hugely into them (yet)) and will be worn every day, swam with, tooled with etc
Whats the better watch? Id like to know there is a decent movement etc and it wont let me down
Also, should i be looking at different models of the same brands?
Edited by FlatToTheMat on Wednesday 7th October 12:41
FlatToTheMat said:
Hi guys,
Decided I'd like a forever watch to commemorate my Daughter and her 1st birthday etc to remember a time and place
Thus far, theses are in consideration:
- Speedmaster Moonwatch
- Seamaster 300 Steel On steel
- Black bay
- 2002 Oyster Perpetual Precision with a blue sunburst dial (arabic numerals etc)
It will be a forever watch and likely my only 'Nice Watch' (Im not hugely into them (yet)) and will be worn every day, swam with, tooled with etc
Whats the better watch? Id like to know there is a decent movement etc and it wont let me down
Also, should i be looking at different models of the same brands?
All nice watches, but for me if this was going to be a 'forever' watch to celebrate such a special time I wouldn't be looking at a used watch. Out of that list, I'd be going for the iconic Seamaster, it's a true everyday / every occasion watch.Decided I'd like a forever watch to commemorate my Daughter and her 1st birthday etc to remember a time and place
Thus far, theses are in consideration:
- Speedmaster Moonwatch
- Seamaster 300 Steel On steel
- Black bay
- 2002 Oyster Perpetual Precision with a blue sunburst dial (arabic numerals etc)
It will be a forever watch and likely my only 'Nice Watch' (Im not hugely into them (yet)) and will be worn every day, swam with, tooled with etc
Whats the better watch? Id like to know there is a decent movement etc and it wont let me down
Also, should i be looking at different models of the same brands?
Of the 2 Omega's as an everyday watch the Seamaster 300m wins.
The Moonwatch is a great watch (I have one), but it's not the better watch as an everyday do anything watch. It's no good for swimming, you have to remember to wind it, and the bracelet is miles behind the latest Seamaster for adjustability. You'd also need to consider the crystal as there are 2 versions, Hesalite =plastic or Sapphire crystal, I went for the latter.
The Seamaster 300m is pretty much perfect for what you're looking for.
I haven't got any experience on the Tudor or the Rolex.
The Moonwatch is a great watch (I have one), but it's not the better watch as an everyday do anything watch. It's no good for swimming, you have to remember to wind it, and the bracelet is miles behind the latest Seamaster for adjustability. You'd also need to consider the crystal as there are 2 versions, Hesalite =plastic or Sapphire crystal, I went for the latter.
The Seamaster 300m is pretty much perfect for what you're looking for.
I haven't got any experience on the Tudor or the Rolex.
TL;DR: Buy the Rolex or Black Bay.
One other consideration you may wish to mull over is the potential for passing the watch on to your daughter someday – either on a ‘big’ birthday or when you shuffle off this mortal coil.
Women can & do wear large sport watches attractively, but all things considered, I think a 36mm or 39mm Oyster Perpetual is equally well-suited to both men & women, regardless of fashion trends or occasion.
Many will no doubt disagree with me, but I think a 36mm watch (especially because it doesn’t have a rotating bezel, and therefore visually ‘wears’ bigger than it is) looks elegantly refined & in proportion on all but the most gorilla-like of male wrists.
I hesitate to suggest a Rolex because it’s a bit of an obvious choice, but then obvious, popular things often have become so for pretty good reasons. It’ll look at home with shorts & suit, can take a beating, handles water with ease, retains value, won’t go out of fashion & just does the job in a comfortingly no-fuss fashion. Being slim in profile, it’ll not get banged on things as much as a bigger, thicker watch whilst using tools. Visually unexciting, to be sure, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing in my book.
I own a Speedmaster Moonwatch and prefer it out of all the watches you have listed – it’s a timeless design classic with a great history that will never go out of fashion, will perform well for decades & looks great on virtually any strap. But as said, it’s not really ideal for swimming (passable 50m water resistance & lacks screw down crown & chronograph pushers). Do you need a date display though?
The Omega Seamaster is a superb watch. I’d lean towards the vintage inspired 300 Master Co-Axial because its classic looks are likely to hold-up very well over time, whereas the 300M has the potential to look a little dated maybe (I realise it’s all subjective).
However, I’d choose a Black Bay (which I also own) over the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial because the Tudor is equally lovely but - even with Omega discount possible - it’s available new at an RRP of over £2k less than a Seamaster. Buy the 39mm 58 Model and it’s potentially even comfortable for your daughter to wear someday.
In terms of movement quality, it all depends on your priorities. The Omega Co-Axial is probably the most technologically advanced & good-looking, with the Tudor not far behind (in performance stakes, if not looks). The Speedmaster 1861 movement is ancient but still superb and a legendarily tough customer still used in Space even today, plus it’s one of the few manually wound Chronograph movements still made. The older 313x Rolex movement is the very definition of well-made, tough, accurate, enduring reliability, and the newer 323x is likely to be just as good, if not yet quite as well-proven over time.
In terms of new RRP (and all of them on bracelet), a 36mm Oyster Perpetual is about £4.5k without discount (when all the hype dies down), which is about what the Seamaster 300 will cost new with available discount, and perhaps £500-£750 more than what you could get a Seamaster 300M or Speedmaster for brand new (again, anticipating Omega discount of about 10% or so). The Black Bay is superb value at just under £3k new, and is just as good a watch as any of them, really.
For what you’re looking, I think you’re probably right to stick with Omega, Tudor & Rolex. They tick a lot of boxes. I could recommend you all sorts of smaller brands, some of them really superb, but will they pass the test of time for you? Cartier is a bit dull & less capable. Breitling over-priced in comparison. IWC good, but less value orientated. Grand Seiko incredible but not for everyone. A TAG Heuer Carrera or Aquaracer is perfectly fine, but not as good a watch. Tissot, Longines, Rado, Oris, Montblanc all fine but I wouldn’t pick them over your short list.
In terms of alternatives within Brand, a DateJust or Explorer is great, but more expensive and not necessarily much better than an Oyster Perpetual For Tudor, the Black Bay 36 is a good, handsome & cheaper watch, but inferior to the Black Bay in terms of movement & less interesting, whilst a Pelagos is more tool-ish and less versatile With Omega, an Aqua Terra offers all the pleasing movement technology in a dressier package, and the Railmaster is good (if a bit dull, in my book).
If you're only going to have the one watch, the Rolex Oyster Perpetual is a top-notch all-rounder that will never see you wrong.
One other consideration you may wish to mull over is the potential for passing the watch on to your daughter someday – either on a ‘big’ birthday or when you shuffle off this mortal coil.
Women can & do wear large sport watches attractively, but all things considered, I think a 36mm or 39mm Oyster Perpetual is equally well-suited to both men & women, regardless of fashion trends or occasion.
Many will no doubt disagree with me, but I think a 36mm watch (especially because it doesn’t have a rotating bezel, and therefore visually ‘wears’ bigger than it is) looks elegantly refined & in proportion on all but the most gorilla-like of male wrists.
I hesitate to suggest a Rolex because it’s a bit of an obvious choice, but then obvious, popular things often have become so for pretty good reasons. It’ll look at home with shorts & suit, can take a beating, handles water with ease, retains value, won’t go out of fashion & just does the job in a comfortingly no-fuss fashion. Being slim in profile, it’ll not get banged on things as much as a bigger, thicker watch whilst using tools. Visually unexciting, to be sure, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing in my book.
I own a Speedmaster Moonwatch and prefer it out of all the watches you have listed – it’s a timeless design classic with a great history that will never go out of fashion, will perform well for decades & looks great on virtually any strap. But as said, it’s not really ideal for swimming (passable 50m water resistance & lacks screw down crown & chronograph pushers). Do you need a date display though?
The Omega Seamaster is a superb watch. I’d lean towards the vintage inspired 300 Master Co-Axial because its classic looks are likely to hold-up very well over time, whereas the 300M has the potential to look a little dated maybe (I realise it’s all subjective).
However, I’d choose a Black Bay (which I also own) over the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial because the Tudor is equally lovely but - even with Omega discount possible - it’s available new at an RRP of over £2k less than a Seamaster. Buy the 39mm 58 Model and it’s potentially even comfortable for your daughter to wear someday.
In terms of movement quality, it all depends on your priorities. The Omega Co-Axial is probably the most technologically advanced & good-looking, with the Tudor not far behind (in performance stakes, if not looks). The Speedmaster 1861 movement is ancient but still superb and a legendarily tough customer still used in Space even today, plus it’s one of the few manually wound Chronograph movements still made. The older 313x Rolex movement is the very definition of well-made, tough, accurate, enduring reliability, and the newer 323x is likely to be just as good, if not yet quite as well-proven over time.
In terms of new RRP (and all of them on bracelet), a 36mm Oyster Perpetual is about £4.5k without discount (when all the hype dies down), which is about what the Seamaster 300 will cost new with available discount, and perhaps £500-£750 more than what you could get a Seamaster 300M or Speedmaster for brand new (again, anticipating Omega discount of about 10% or so). The Black Bay is superb value at just under £3k new, and is just as good a watch as any of them, really.
For what you’re looking, I think you’re probably right to stick with Omega, Tudor & Rolex. They tick a lot of boxes. I could recommend you all sorts of smaller brands, some of them really superb, but will they pass the test of time for you? Cartier is a bit dull & less capable. Breitling over-priced in comparison. IWC good, but less value orientated. Grand Seiko incredible but not for everyone. A TAG Heuer Carrera or Aquaracer is perfectly fine, but not as good a watch. Tissot, Longines, Rado, Oris, Montblanc all fine but I wouldn’t pick them over your short list.
In terms of alternatives within Brand, a DateJust or Explorer is great, but more expensive and not necessarily much better than an Oyster Perpetual For Tudor, the Black Bay 36 is a good, handsome & cheaper watch, but inferior to the Black Bay in terms of movement & less interesting, whilst a Pelagos is more tool-ish and less versatile With Omega, an Aqua Terra offers all the pleasing movement technology in a dressier package, and the Railmaster is good (if a bit dull, in my book).
If you're only going to have the one watch, the Rolex Oyster Perpetual is a top-notch all-rounder that will never see you wrong.
Edited by UnclePat on Wednesday 7th October 15:42
Wow, fantastically helpful response from all! Thanks a lot.
Lets talk money for a second, its not important from the expenditure aspect more i can justify a purchase if its good 'Value' regardless of the outlay (Does that make sense?)
I live in the middle east so prices may be different: (Prices in Sterling)
Year 2002 Oyster Perpetual Air King Precision - 2,765
Moonwatch - 3,600
Seamaster 300 - 3,300
Blackbay - 2,600
And a unused grey market black bay for 1,700
Moonwatch, i now remember why i didn't buy one as a wedding watch, in Omega USA thy told me essentially that it was fragile, not suitable for swimming and would scratch easily
Rolex, yes i love the brand even if it obvious.. does it matter that's its 18 years old? Even if mint with box and papers, same owner from new?
Tudor, I love the brand, a bit chunky but surprisingly not big on my wrist. The unused used one for 1,700 is awfully tempting!
Lets talk money for a second, its not important from the expenditure aspect more i can justify a purchase if its good 'Value' regardless of the outlay (Does that make sense?)
I live in the middle east so prices may be different: (Prices in Sterling)
Year 2002 Oyster Perpetual Air King Precision - 2,765
Moonwatch - 3,600
Seamaster 300 - 3,300
Blackbay - 2,600
And a unused grey market black bay for 1,700
Moonwatch, i now remember why i didn't buy one as a wedding watch, in Omega USA thy told me essentially that it was fragile, not suitable for swimming and would scratch easily
Rolex, yes i love the brand even if it obvious.. does it matter that's its 18 years old? Even if mint with box and papers, same owner from new?
Tudor, I love the brand, a bit chunky but surprisingly not big on my wrist. The unused used one for 1,700 is awfully tempting!
UnclePat said:
TL;DR: Buy the Rolex or Black Bay.
One other consideration you may wish to mull over is the potential for passing the watch on to your daughter someday – either on a ‘big’ birthday or when you shuffle off this mortal coil.
Women can & do wear large sport watches attractively, but all things considered, I think a 36mm or 39mm Oyster Perpetual is equally well-suited to both men & women, regardless of fashion trends or occasion.
Many will no doubt disagree with me, but I think a 36mm watch (especially because it doesn’t have a rotating bezel, and therefore visually ‘wears’ bigger than it is) looks elegantly refined & in proportion on all but the most gorilla-like of male wrists.
I hesitate to suggest a Rolex because it’s a bit of an obvious choice, but then obvious, popular things often have become so for pretty good reasons. It’ll look at home with shorts & suit, can take a beating, handles water with ease, retains value, won’t go out of fashion & just does the job in a comfortingly no-fuss fashion. Being slim in profile, it’ll not get banged on things as much as a bigger, thicker watch whilst using tools. Visually unexciting, to be sure, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing in my book.
I own a Speedmaster Moonwatch and prefer it out of all the watches you have listed – it’s a timeless design classic with a great history that will never go out of fashion, will perform well for decades & looks great on virtually any strap. But as said, it’s not really ideal for swimming (passable 50m water resistance & lacks screw down crown & chronograph pushers). Do you need a date display though?
The Omega Seamaster is a superb watch. I’d lean towards the vintage inspired 300 Master Co-Axial because its classic looks are likely to hold-up very well over time, whereas the 300M has the potential to look a little dated maybe (I realise it’s all subjective).
However, I’d choose a Black Bay (which I also own) over the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial because the Tudor is equally lovely but - even with Omega discount possible - it’s available new at an RRP of over £2k less than a Seamaster. Buy the 39mm 58 Model and it’s potentially even comfortable for your daughter to wear someday.
In terms of movement quality, it all depends on your priorities. The Omega Co-Axial is probably the most technologically advanced & good-looking, with the Tudor not far behind (in performance stakes, if not looks). The Speedmaster 1861 movement is ancient but still superb and a legendarily tough customer still used in Space even today, plus it’s one of the few manually wound Chronograph movements still made. The older 313x Rolex movement is the very definition of well-made, tough, accurate, enduring reliability, and the newer 323x is likely to be just as good, if not yet quite as well-proven over time.
In terms of new RRP (and all of them on bracelet), a 36mm Oyster Perpetual is about £4.5k without discount (when all the hype dies down), which is about what the Seamaster 300 will cost new with available discount, and perhaps £500-£750 more than what you could get a Seamaster 300M or Speedmaster for brand new (again, anticipating Omega discount of about 10% or so). The Black Bay is superb value at just under £3k new, and is just as good a watch as any of them, really.
For what you’re looking, I think you’re probably right to stick with Omega, Tudor & Rolex. They tick a lot of boxes. I could recommend you all sorts of smaller brands, some of them really superb, but will they pass the test of time for you? Cartier is a bit dull & less capable. Breitling over-priced in comparison. IWC good, but less value orientated. Grand Seiko incredible but not for everyone. A TAG Heuer Carrera or Aquaracer is perfectly fine, but not as good a watch. Tissot, Longines, Rado, Oris, Montblanc all fine but I wouldn’t pick them over your short list.
In terms of alternatives within Brand, a DateJust or Explorer is great, but more expensive and not necessarily much better than an Oyster Perpetual For Tudor, the Black Bay 36 is a good, handsome & cheaper watch, but inferior to the Black Bay in terms of movement & less interesting, whilst a Pelagos is more tool-ish and less versatile With Omega, an Aqua Terra offers all the pleasing movement technology in a dressier package, and the Railmaster is good (if a bit dull, in my book).
If you're only going to have the one watch, the Rolex Oyster Perpetual is a top-notch all-rounder that will never see you wrong.
Wow, what a reply. This is why I love this particular forum on PH. I have another thread around a 40th gift to myself, where I'm second guessing an Explorer purchase. Increasingly thinking in current climate that the Black Bay 58 is the one to go for, fantastic watch and great value.One other consideration you may wish to mull over is the potential for passing the watch on to your daughter someday – either on a ‘big’ birthday or when you shuffle off this mortal coil.
Women can & do wear large sport watches attractively, but all things considered, I think a 36mm or 39mm Oyster Perpetual is equally well-suited to both men & women, regardless of fashion trends or occasion.
Many will no doubt disagree with me, but I think a 36mm watch (especially because it doesn’t have a rotating bezel, and therefore visually ‘wears’ bigger than it is) looks elegantly refined & in proportion on all but the most gorilla-like of male wrists.
I hesitate to suggest a Rolex because it’s a bit of an obvious choice, but then obvious, popular things often have become so for pretty good reasons. It’ll look at home with shorts & suit, can take a beating, handles water with ease, retains value, won’t go out of fashion & just does the job in a comfortingly no-fuss fashion. Being slim in profile, it’ll not get banged on things as much as a bigger, thicker watch whilst using tools. Visually unexciting, to be sure, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing in my book.
I own a Speedmaster Moonwatch and prefer it out of all the watches you have listed – it’s a timeless design classic with a great history that will never go out of fashion, will perform well for decades & looks great on virtually any strap. But as said, it’s not really ideal for swimming (passable 50m water resistance & lacks screw down crown & chronograph pushers). Do you need a date display though?
The Omega Seamaster is a superb watch. I’d lean towards the vintage inspired 300 Master Co-Axial because its classic looks are likely to hold-up very well over time, whereas the 300M has the potential to look a little dated maybe (I realise it’s all subjective).
However, I’d choose a Black Bay (which I also own) over the Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial because the Tudor is equally lovely but - even with Omega discount possible - it’s available new at an RRP of over £2k less than a Seamaster. Buy the 39mm 58 Model and it’s potentially even comfortable for your daughter to wear someday.
In terms of movement quality, it all depends on your priorities. The Omega Co-Axial is probably the most technologically advanced & good-looking, with the Tudor not far behind (in performance stakes, if not looks). The Speedmaster 1861 movement is ancient but still superb and a legendarily tough customer still used in Space even today, plus it’s one of the few manually wound Chronograph movements still made. The older 313x Rolex movement is the very definition of well-made, tough, accurate, enduring reliability, and the newer 323x is likely to be just as good, if not yet quite as well-proven over time.
In terms of new RRP (and all of them on bracelet), a 36mm Oyster Perpetual is about £4.5k without discount (when all the hype dies down), which is about what the Seamaster 300 will cost new with available discount, and perhaps £500-£750 more than what you could get a Seamaster 300M or Speedmaster for brand new (again, anticipating Omega discount of about 10% or so). The Black Bay is superb value at just under £3k new, and is just as good a watch as any of them, really.
For what you’re looking, I think you’re probably right to stick with Omega, Tudor & Rolex. They tick a lot of boxes. I could recommend you all sorts of smaller brands, some of them really superb, but will they pass the test of time for you? Cartier is a bit dull & less capable. Breitling over-priced in comparison. IWC good, but less value orientated. Grand Seiko incredible but not for everyone. A TAG Heuer Carrera or Aquaracer is perfectly fine, but not as good a watch. Tissot, Longines, Rado, Oris, Montblanc all fine but I wouldn’t pick them over your short list.
In terms of alternatives within Brand, a DateJust or Explorer is great, but more expensive and not necessarily much better than an Oyster Perpetual For Tudor, the Black Bay 36 is a good, handsome & cheaper watch, but inferior to the Black Bay in terms of movement & less interesting, whilst a Pelagos is more tool-ish and less versatile With Omega, an Aqua Terra offers all the pleasing movement technology in a dressier package, and the Railmaster is good (if a bit dull, in my book).
If you're only going to have the one watch, the Rolex Oyster Perpetual is a top-notch all-rounder that will never see you wrong.
Edited by UnclePat on Wednesday 7th October 15:42
Bit of a strange selection. The Air King will be 34mm while the BB will be 41mm. One is a large diver and the other is technically a sports watch; but which I'd say is now considered 'dressy' due to its size. The Omegas fall in between size wise, but one is a chrono. Personally, I've never quite seen the point of them unless you're going to use the functionality.
I've actually owned all of them apart from the AK, but I do have a Milgauss and a Sub so I'm a bit of a Rolex fan.
Have you actually tried them on though, because they really are different! None of them are bad choices though, so buy the one that you'd happily look at each day.
Personally, I'd forget the AK, up my budget, and buy one of the more recent OP models or an Explorer. I think it's the safest option there is for a 'forever' watch.
I've actually owned all of them apart from the AK, but I do have a Milgauss and a Sub so I'm a bit of a Rolex fan.
Have you actually tried them on though, because they really are different! None of them are bad choices though, so buy the one that you'd happily look at each day.
Personally, I'd forget the AK, up my budget, and buy one of the more recent OP models or an Explorer. I think it's the safest option there is for a 'forever' watch.
Go try them on (and more!) Then buy the one you like.
I went a bought a watch for my 40th, I did not want a diver, I wasn't interested in a tutor black bay, and guess what I ended up buying!
If it's forever watch, don't worry about brand or anything else, buy what you like on your wrist, your the only person it has to please.
I went a bought a watch for my 40th, I did not want a diver, I wasn't interested in a tutor black bay, and guess what I ended up buying!
If it's forever watch, don't worry about brand or anything else, buy what you like on your wrist, your the only person it has to please.
I think you really need to try them all on.
You are talking about watches that all wear, and certainly feel, very different from each other on the wrist.
These are/were mine, I have a 7.5" wrist..
This was the Omega triple date 40mm, which feels similar in size to the moonwatch...

This was my Seamaster, regret selling this to be honest, 41mm version....

This was a 36mm datejust, older on the jubilee strap it is another watch I sold, to buy a 41mm DJ, and really regret it, really, really loved wearing that watch, may buy another at some point....

This is a 40mm Yachmaster, not mine, Nick who posts on here, really is lovely in the flesh, and at 40mm feels the same as the DJ41 to be honest, but gives you an idea on how big/small it wears on Rolexes, 39/40/41 case size, great all rounder.....

This is the Tudor Black Bay GMT, they wear big, 41mm like the seamaster but it is deep at nearly 15mm thick, which means it only wears well on larger wrists and on the bracelet, for me it shows up how chunky it is with a nato or leather strap, and not in a good way....

It shows just how different they all wear.
If I was to buy one watch tomorrow, I would probably buy a Black Bay 58 or a 39mm Oyster, in white, silver, blue or dark rhodium.
It is probably the best all round watch for doing everything in without spending silly money, imho.
In many ways it works better than the DJ41, even a DJ with smooth bezel and oyster bracelet, the OP39 is just so clean looking, can look sporty or dressy and it doesn't shout out "I'm a Rolex" which personally I like.
But try them as they all feel very different.
You are talking about watches that all wear, and certainly feel, very different from each other on the wrist.
These are/were mine, I have a 7.5" wrist..
This was the Omega triple date 40mm, which feels similar in size to the moonwatch...
This was my Seamaster, regret selling this to be honest, 41mm version....
This was a 36mm datejust, older on the jubilee strap it is another watch I sold, to buy a 41mm DJ, and really regret it, really, really loved wearing that watch, may buy another at some point....
This is a 40mm Yachmaster, not mine, Nick who posts on here, really is lovely in the flesh, and at 40mm feels the same as the DJ41 to be honest, but gives you an idea on how big/small it wears on Rolexes, 39/40/41 case size, great all rounder.....
This is the Tudor Black Bay GMT, they wear big, 41mm like the seamaster but it is deep at nearly 15mm thick, which means it only wears well on larger wrists and on the bracelet, for me it shows up how chunky it is with a nato or leather strap, and not in a good way....
It shows just how different they all wear.
If I was to buy one watch tomorrow, I would probably buy a Black Bay 58 or a 39mm Oyster, in white, silver, blue or dark rhodium.
It is probably the best all round watch for doing everything in without spending silly money, imho.
In many ways it works better than the DJ41, even a DJ with smooth bezel and oyster bracelet, the OP39 is just so clean looking, can look sporty or dressy and it doesn't shout out "I'm a Rolex" which personally I like.
But try them as they all feel very different.
I've got Rolex 36mm Datejust, Tudor GMT and Omega Seamaster (212.30.41.20.03.001).
Out of the 3 the Seamaster is the one I do and would wear everyday, much comfier. Been wearing the Tudor during lockdown and its a lot thicker.
If you are looking at Tudor look at the Black Bay 58, classic watch in my opinion especially the black version rather than the new blue one.
Out of the 3 the Seamaster is the one I do and would wear everyday, much comfier. Been wearing the Tudor during lockdown and its a lot thicker.
If you are looking at Tudor look at the Black Bay 58, classic watch in my opinion especially the black version rather than the new blue one.
I’m looking for a new watch too. I’ve looked at a few so far & dismissed the Tudors (Pelagos, BBGMT & BB58) . I can’t get past the bracelet on the BB’s, the fake rivets spoil it completely for me. The Pelagos is fantastic but doesn’t fit my “one watch” criteria.
My friend has a Moonwatch, it’s too “busy” for me, they are iconic & my pal loves his. The Seamasters I’ve looked at were lovely. I expected to like the white dial more than the black but found that once I got eyes/hands on, the black dial almost had me reaching for the funds. They look fantastic on a rubber strap too. But....the Omega bracelet doesn’t quite work for me, I prefer a simpler 3-link design tbh, it doesn’t taper either so it’s a chunky thing.
This leaves Rolex. I’ve had a few over the years (couple of Subs & an Air King) The Subs were moved on years ago but the Air King remains although at 34mm it’s quite dainty by today’s standards so my other half wears it now. So after mulling & re-mulling what to buy I settled on another Rolex & have my name on a list for an Explorer (214270). It’s a beefier version of my Air King in a lot of respects (case size & definitely bracelet/clasp), it will dress up & dress down depending on what I’m doing, apparently they’re robust enough to take a knock or two & look great on a rubber strap (which I’ll definitely purchase when/if the watch turns up). They’re often said to be the perfect “only watch you’ll ever need” & I’ll go along with that (...hopefully)
My friend has a Moonwatch, it’s too “busy” for me, they are iconic & my pal loves his. The Seamasters I’ve looked at were lovely. I expected to like the white dial more than the black but found that once I got eyes/hands on, the black dial almost had me reaching for the funds. They look fantastic on a rubber strap too. But....the Omega bracelet doesn’t quite work for me, I prefer a simpler 3-link design tbh, it doesn’t taper either so it’s a chunky thing.
This leaves Rolex. I’ve had a few over the years (couple of Subs & an Air King) The Subs were moved on years ago but the Air King remains although at 34mm it’s quite dainty by today’s standards so my other half wears it now. So after mulling & re-mulling what to buy I settled on another Rolex & have my name on a list for an Explorer (214270). It’s a beefier version of my Air King in a lot of respects (case size & definitely bracelet/clasp), it will dress up & dress down depending on what I’m doing, apparently they’re robust enough to take a knock or two & look great on a rubber strap (which I’ll definitely purchase when/if the watch turns up). They’re often said to be the perfect “only watch you’ll ever need” & I’ll go along with that (...hopefully)
Edited by andySC on Thursday 8th October 11:01
AndrewCrown said:
Flat
For a commemorative piece with heirloom facility built in...it has to be Rolex...
Can you post a picture of the Oyster perpetual you are considering?
For a commemorative piece with heirloom facility built in...it has to be Rolex...
Can you post a picture of the Oyster perpetual you are considering?
Same as this, bought by the seller from a AD. Has all papers and the boxes etc
Price is £2,750
I’m due I go and see it tomorrow, I think if it looks nice on my wrist and my wife likes it also I think it may well be the one!
I’ve visited a few watch shops, Omega, Longines, Hublot, Bell and Ross, and frederique constant
I’m kinda surprised to admit, Omega isn’t for me. I like them in pictures but not on my wrist. So that’s them ruled out unfortunately
Longines I liked, as I did some of the FC’s also, more dress watch than I’d like but it’s made me realise I think I like a more classic watch, maybe even vintage. I can’t wear leather due to the climate I live in but I like the “prettiness”
Of the open hearts and viewing gallery into the inner working. That’s something you miss in a diver I guess.
The FC’s I did really like which supposed me but also perhaps confirmed that I want a dressier watch (even if my wife says the more money we have, the more homeless I look...) a dressier watch that isn’t going to stop if I do much as sneeze near it.
I’m still umming and ahhing over a fifty eight... it ticks a lot of boxes and there are two available for a very attractive price (could I buy a 58 and a Oyster ??)
Pictures below are the 2 Tudors available

I think both are lovely, I like the maroon as it reminds me of the Qatar flag where we are living
The black looks great and more universal to dress with.
I’m kinda surprised to admit, Omega isn’t for me. I like them in pictures but not on my wrist. So that’s them ruled out unfortunately
Longines I liked, as I did some of the FC’s also, more dress watch than I’d like but it’s made me realise I think I like a more classic watch, maybe even vintage. I can’t wear leather due to the climate I live in but I like the “prettiness”
Of the open hearts and viewing gallery into the inner working. That’s something you miss in a diver I guess.
The FC’s I did really like which supposed me but also perhaps confirmed that I want a dressier watch (even if my wife says the more money we have, the more homeless I look...) a dressier watch that isn’t going to stop if I do much as sneeze near it.
I’m still umming and ahhing over a fifty eight... it ticks a lot of boxes and there are two available for a very attractive price (could I buy a 58 and a Oyster ??)
Pictures below are the 2 Tudors available
I think both are lovely, I like the maroon as it reminds me of the Qatar flag where we are living
The black looks great and more universal to dress with.
Edited by FlatToTheMat on Friday 9th October 18:22
AJB88 said:
just to throw a spanner in the works... they did a Qatar special edition of the maroon one.
Aha! Yes you are absolutely correct! That’s what started it all, I love the idea of that watch and I can get one in budget though.. is it worth double that of an ordinary red faced one? That “State of Qatar” wording really grabs me and would be a fitting homage to our time and her birth here.. saying that I think it tells a story better and very limited I believe? I’ve read 150-400 pieces
Should I just stop minding my money and do it? Is it worth it over a used Oyster?
I’m happy you know about that model, I assumed no one would in blighty
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