Safe for watch

[Notreallymeeither]

Hi all

Does anyone have any recommendations for an insurance approved safe to store my watch and any other valuables.

I have a couple of the £30 efforts that I think you can break in to very easily. Was after something more substantial- but also didn’t want to pay mega bucks!

Thanks

[paddy1970]

Cheap safes are really easy to pick up...it makes you wonder if it is worth the effort ... might be better to hide them very well...

See some examples of lock picking:
https://www.youtube.com/c/lockpickinglawyer/search...

[Tony1963]

Buy a cheap safe, place it somewhere reasonably obvious, leave a knackered old watch in it, and hide your good stuff somewhere, maybe in a better safe. They’ll find the cheap safe, break into it, leave disappointed… maybe.

[Seight_Returns]

Offsite safe deposit box.

Particularly so if you've posted on a public internet forum that you currently keep expensive watches and other valuable stuff at home in a £30 safe that can be broken into very easily ......

[Notreallymeeither]

Watch is 2nd hand gift but is currently off site getting serviced so won’t be back for a good 2 months - I’m just getting prepared for return.

I have a couple of cheap safes. Just want a more substantial one (suspect it might be an insurance requirement)

[Buster73]

Seight_Returns said:

Offsite safe deposit box.

Particularly so if you've posted on a public internet forum that you currently keep expensive watches and other valuable stuff at home in a £30 safe that can be broken into very easily ......

Just checked his details, he lets everyone know he lives in the UK , so that narrows it down a bit ….

Wish he’d be a bit a bit more specific and give more details.

Kind regards

Billy the Burglar.

[Notreallymeeither]

Buster73 said:

Seight_Returns said:

Offsite safe deposit box.

Particularly so if you've posted on a public internet forum that you currently keep expensive watches and other valuable stuff at home in a £30 safe that can be broken into very easily ......

Just checked his details, he lets everyone know he lives in the UK , so that narrows it down a bit ….

Wish he’d be a bit a bit more specific and give more details.

Kind regards

Billy the Burglar.

Damn it, you’ve found me

[LeadFarmer]

I have a cheap(ish) safe that I have bolted to brickwork in my loft. IfI go away on holiday I put my expensive watch in there. The safe is concealed by loads of junk, and itchy loft insulation. It's quite close to the loft hatch, but not visible, but I can stand on the ladder in the open hatch and reach/twist to access the watch without having to step inside the loft.

I find this is the best compromise between security and ease of access.

[sparkyhx]

have you tried looking for a Gun/ammo Safe - depending on what you want to spend.

e.g. https://www.gdktrading.co.uk/ammunition-safes?prod...

[Notreallymeeither]

Hi all thanks for the input

Looking around the web, I’ll probably go for something like this (£200 delivered for a safe which is rated for £40k valuables)

I haven’t ordered yet but this is the sort of thing I’m after.

https://www.allaboutsafes.co.uk/safes-c128/burton-...

[anonymous-user]

sparkyhx said:

have you tried looking for a Gun/ammo Safe - depending on what you want to spend.

e.g. https://www.gdktrading.co.uk/ammunition-safes?prod...

When I go away for work/holiday etc I put my valuables and watches in my gun safe.

Burglars usually leave gun safes well alone if they find one, because burglary is one thing to be prosecuted for, but stealing, possessing, and selling firearms is a whole different level of prison time, and burglars like to stick to as few criminal charges as possible while going about their 'business'.

If you don't have a gun safe, my advice would be to buy a 'proper' big heavy bolted-in safe (as the OP has found above), or get a smaller safe but hide it somewhere that thieves won't be likely to find it.

Most burglars aren't generally expert lock pickers, nor do they want to be in a house for any length of time while trying to wrestle out or break open a big heavy safe.

People will argue that 'all security is pointless' because burglars will ultimately take anything they want if they try hard enough, but I don't subscribe to that at all.

The vast majority of burglars are opportunists and will target easy properties, and places that present as little risk or resistance as possible.

It doesn't cost a lot to have decent and visible CCTV around your property, a modern alarm system, a Ring doorbell, security lights, and a decent chunky safe amongst other stuff. For a couple of grand you can be well protected. With millions of homes to choose from, make yours an unattractive one for criminals and they will move on to the next.

I have just moved into an area of the country where crimes, including burglary, are apparently few and far between, but I have just spent more than I ever have on CCTV, security, lights, a safe, etc, because as my electrician/security guy pointed out to me "You wouldn't want to be the only house round here that wasn't properly tooled up would you? Makes you the easy target!"

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 5th August 16:38

[sparkyhx]

Lord Marylebone said:

sparkyhx said:

have you tried looking for a Gun/ammo Safe - depending on what you want to spend.

e.g. https://www.gdktrading.co.uk/ammunition-safes?prod...

When I go away for work/holiday etc I put my valuables and watches in my gun safe.

Burglars usually leave gun safes well alone if they find one, because burglary is one thing to be prosecuted for, but stealing, possessing, and selling firearms is a whole different level of prison time, and burglars like to stick to as few criminal charges as possible while going about their 'business'.

If you don't have a gun safe, my advice would be to buy a 'proper' big heavy bolted-in safe (as the OP has found above), or get a smaller safe but hide it somewhere that thieves won't be likely to find it.

Most burglars aren't generally expert lock pickers, nor do they want to be in a house for any length of time while trying to wrestle out or break open a big heavy safe.

People will argue that 'all security is pointless' because burglars will ultimately take anything they want if they try hard enough, but I don't subscribe to that at all.

The vast majority of burglars are opportunists and will target easy properties, and places that present as little risk or resistance as possible.

It doesn't cost a lot to have decent and visible CCTV around your property, a modern alarm system, a Ring doorbell, security lights, and a decent chunky safe amongst other stuff. For a couple of grand you can be well protected. With millions of homes to choose from, make yours an unattractive one for criminals and they will move on to the next.

I have just moved into an area of the country where crimes, including burglary, are apparently few and far between, but I have just spent more than I ever have on CCTV, security, lights, a safe, etc, because as my electrician/security guy pointed out to me "You wouldn't want to be the only house round here that wasn't properly tooled up would you? Makes you the easy target!"

Edited by Lord Marylebone on Thursday 5th August 16:38

same here, but my gun safe is unused since Dunblane when I had my pistols taken from me. But handy as a safe cos still bolted to a wall and floor. and a separate lockable ammo case bolted inside that. It requires 3 7lever keys to get at my stuff

[Love Labradors]

i had to get a safe recently as a condition from my insurers

its an absolute minefield

i looked at second-hand safes on Ebay etc - excellent bargains but speaking to my insurers they are not covered unless they conform to current specifications

basically to get full insurance cover buying a safe it has to be to current spec

BUT

if you have an old safe and continue to keep up the insurance you are still covered - but sell said safe and new owner is not covered as its out of date security wise

you can still use an old safe that probably needs explosives to crack at your own risk - which is quite logical

the current modelling is based on a cash versus valuables ratio

so a £4K cash safe is covered up to £40K valuables - ten to one ratio

and fixings of a new safe are very strict if you want the safe to be covered - no more fixing to brick/block walls - it must be to concrete with approved bolts (often supplied by safe manufacturer)

i bought a Securikey Mini Vault - excellent service and all bolts included with excellent fixing instructions

once you have fixed the safe you have to make a declaration that it has been installed in full accordance with said instructions - then you

my advice for what its worth is get a key rather than digital lock (and its cheaper) get issued with an insurance certificate

[Love Labradors]

Notreallymeeither said:

Hi all thanks for the input

Looking around the web, I’ll probably go for something like this (£200 delivered for a safe which is rated for £40k valuables)

I haven’t ordered yet but this is the sort of thing I’m after.

https://www.allaboutsafes.co.uk/safes-c128/burton-...

excellent choice

[stewart rix]

No fire protection with that one, so you might want to consider something else if you want to keep passports and other docs in there too.
I've just bought a Securikey 1025n (Eurograde 1). But, blimey, bear in mind the weight though - moving it felt like all of its 80kg and more!

[Love Labradors]

not concerned about passport etc - just paper that can be replaced by the press of a button

you cannot just replace a SS Daytona